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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Jangalomph on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:31 pm

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IF you guys are fans of breaking bad that might give you a laugh, was on a youtube video.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Major Banter on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:42 pm

MaK wrote:you're supposed to just ignore things like this and let it pass

This stuff has an impact and an effect. It's not just through the obvious developer/consumer relations, it's through their approach to the market, the impact on developers, the impact on statistics and expectations. It diminishes the value of genuine complaints and suggestions via a wave of rhetoric and kills critical thinking and discussion stone dead.

Will it affect Harvester's work on KSP? Of course not. Does it show a worrying trend where people with "their best interests in mind" are trying to wrest creative control from competent developers, and shitting all over their work while simultaneously playing it and enjoying it? Somewhat, yes. It shows a lack of foresight, a lack of perspective, a lack of understanding, and all of this stuff gets carried back to the developers because it's a vocal minority.

Christ, if the next generation of gamers will base their requirements off something that they haven't even thought about for five minutes in a critical way, what hope is there?


Edit; come on Janga, readddddd! "there's a furore going on over at the KSP forums over a nugget of an opinion that it may get expansion packs in the future."
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Major Banter on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:50 pm

But I digress. That's just rant, not a debate. Here are overweight cats with money.

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Re: RandomThread II

Postby source-maps on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:51 pm

reading the head line at reddit

'Kerbal Space Program, a game which was using the distribution method popularized by Minecraft and promising alpha purchasers "all future updates for free" has now come out and stated it intends to release an expansion pack that it will charge alpha purchasers for. Do you consider this fair?'


well if this is true, don't say that sort of shit
I mean.. big or small developer.. don't do false advertising right?

Valve did that with l4d1 and even after they released l4d2 they continued saying they would keep on supporting l4d1.. which is now basically left for dead..

plans change, I get that
indy devs need money to feed their hungry babies.. I get that too

but it's not cool if developers turn in to politicians and say popular stuff so people will buy their shit


or is there more to this story than I'm willing to read?
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Major Banter on Wed Apr 10, 2013 10:58 pm

source-maps wrote:well if this is true, don't say that sort of shit
I mean.. big or small developer.. don't do false advertising right?

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or is there more to this story than I'm willing to read?

For the sake of clarity; the dev who actually mentioned this whole expansion thing slung it out as a general comment in a podcast. Expansions would be considerably large, almost whole new games in their own right of extreme complexity for the most advanced players. It definitely wasn't the wisest thing to say publically without clearly establishing it as an idea, and a PR department would've caught it pretty damn quick.

What concerns me is that rather than taking this as a suggestion or an idea to be tossed around, it was taken at face value as the business model that the KSP devs are now going to use. The community chose to jump to conclusions, dumped it on reddit and boom, shitstorm alert.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby source-maps on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:02 pm

ah oke, that makes a lot more sense :)
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Plague on Wed Apr 10, 2013 11:04 pm

Plague wrote:Welcome to the mainstream gaming community?
Contact. The EU welcomes the pain free. That's emotional impact.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby source-maps on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:22 am

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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Jangalomph on Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:35 am



Always loved when the band would play this at our high school hand egg games. Beware of snorlaxes i used to go to school with.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby srredfire on Thu Apr 11, 2013 4:37 am

I hope all of you exercise on a daily basis. Being obese is very unhealthy and if any of you are overweight you need to change RIGHT NOW because people will make fun of you and you will smell very bad and you will get a billion diseases and deep vein thrombosis from sitting around so much!!!!!

PLEASE STOP BEING FAT GUYS!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Black_Stormy on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:11 am

Get back to your fat acceptance meet, Spencer. I'll be over here looking like a greek statue. WIth a massive penis though. Srs. Srs you guize.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Armageddon on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:29 am

Gruize.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Hollow on Thu Apr 11, 2013 9:35 am

gimmegimmegimmegimme
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby Armageddon on Thu Apr 11, 2013 10:09 am

The apocalypse has had an apocalypse.

Yes.
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Re: RandomThread II

Postby ErikKiller on Thu Apr 11, 2013 11:45 am

So it's an Armageddon?
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