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Postby Ale on Fri Dec 21, 2007 8:47 am

Actually, i had never heard of the brand either, but i read about them, and they are quite new, but their PSUs is really good. Really high efficiency even at high wattage
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Postby Simon on Fri Dec 21, 2007 10:07 pm

xoqolatl wrote:Q6600 all the way, especially if it's G0 stepping and you have a good quad clocking board :D

there's a guy at another forum posting the exact opposite... I also prefer the Q6600 (G0 indeed) because I can get it right now at quite a low price, but how are you so sure it'll perform better than the E8500? I know there aren't any benchies out yet (I think), but I'd like to hear some arguments or something

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Postby xoqolatl on Sat Dec 22, 2007 5:13 pm

E8500 will be faster clock for clock, because it's based on Penryn architecture, which has some improvements over Conroe. It's clocked at 3166 MHz, which is 766 more than Q6600, so it would be faster even without those improvements. It has 9.5 multi, so it means it will need less FSB to overclock than Q6600. But A q6600 can be easily overclocked to 3.2GHz on any decent motherboard, and is quad core, so while not faster in single-threaded applications, it will be much faster in normal desktop use. I have used an E6600 daily, now I have Q6600 at the same clock (well, almost) and the general responsivity is much better. Q6600 is not faster, but it's more bang per buck. And is available now, while E8500 will be available in January (if Intel does not delay the lauch, having no competition).
It also looks like Q9450 will replace Q6600 as performance/price king:
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Clock-for-clock benchmarks (showing Penryn vs Conroe improvement) source: HKEPC.com
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Postby nub on Sun Dec 23, 2007 10:24 pm

I built this new rig out of 3 old systems. Now I have a decent computer and a bunch of spare parts.

All it's really lacking is the graphics card. I'm not too sure, but I might get this decent little card for it, but it may be a tad bit expensive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133176

It's PNY but that's like the only really good card I could find for AGP on newegg. My mobo supports AGP 3.0 x4, and this seems to be the right card. I just want this for light gaming instead of barely making it on a 5200...

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Postby RawMeat3000 on Mon Dec 24, 2007 12:14 am

Well, it sure is a lot better than a 5200, but, I'd recommend this.
Just a little more, but a lot better.

Edit: Scratch that, it's an 8x card. I didn't read your post very well.
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Postby nub on Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:24 pm

I'd get that but it's 8x. It has to be 4x since that's all the mobo supports.

But I'll probably not buy an upgrade for it anyway. I'm probably just going to save up for an 8800 for my better computer (which I'm now on finally).

Thanks for the help.
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Postby zombie@computer on Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:03 am

agp 4x and 8x are backwards compatible. For most games you wont even notice a difference in speed
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Postby punky on Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:19 am

nub wrote:I built this new rig out of 3 old systems. Now I have a decent computer and a bunch of spare parts.

All it's really lacking is the graphics card. I'm not too sure, but I might get this decent little card for it, but it may be a tad bit expensive:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814133176

It's PNY but that's like the only really good card I could find for AGP on newegg. My mobo supports AGP 3.0 x4, and this seems to be the right card. I just want this for light gaming instead of barely making it on a 5200...

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I have the same videocard and it runs everything perfectly(with everything iI mean all the source games ,I can put all setting(except for AA) on its highest with everything still running fine.
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Postby nub on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:36 am

Yeah well I've decided to just upgrade my newer system. I have a budget of $300. So what do you think about this?:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130303


These things are always running out of stock. They must be the most popular models out there. I'm definitely thinking about buying one. Unfortunately I'm a bit worried/confused. It says it's for PCI-E 2.2. CPU-Z states that my mainboard is just PCI-E. Not like 2.2 or something like that. Would this be a problem?

Please give me some feedback asap before these things run out of stock again!

EDIT: Ugh nevermind. Dell was shitty enough to put in only a PCI-E x16 motherboard. Expandable configuration my ass! I hate Dell...
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Postby irt3hnubpie on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:49 am

Hmm, I just recently got some money to spend and I was wondering if this rig is good for the price:

(HP Pavilion M8125X)
Intel Core 2 Quad 6600 2.4GHz
2GB SDRAM (Exp. To 8GB)
400GB SATA (7200RPM)
NVIDIA GeForce 7350LE With TV Tuner (I know the videocard is shit, but I'm gonna dish out on an 8800.)
HP 20" Widescreen LCD Monitor

For: $999.99 CAN
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Postby nub on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:52 am

The graphics card in does in fact suck ass. And the motherboard in that configuration is most likely not PCI-E 2.0 and most of your new cards out there use 2.0. Meaning you'd be in the same situation that I'm in: stuck on a 7 series card when the 9 series is about to release.

Also you'd probably have to buy a better power supply if you wanted to upgrade to an 8800 since those things require a minimum of 200 watts alone (so I've heard).
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Postby irt3hnubpie on Thu Dec 27, 2007 2:57 am

nub wrote:The graphics card in that sucks ass. I'd recommend finding at least an 8600. The 9800 is coming out soon anyway so the 8 series will most likely drop in price one it does. Can you choose your hardware or is it just stuck that way? Everything else seems fine.

I can't choose hardware; it's an HP. But yeah, I was planning on getting an 8 series, cause they're quite cheap around here (NVIDIA GeForce 8500GT 512MB PCIe for $168.85 CAN).
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Postby zombie@computer on Thu Dec 27, 2007 3:00 pm

the 8500 isnt that great either...
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Postby irt3hnubpie on Thu Dec 27, 2007 4:24 pm

I know it isn't, but 8800's are 200+$ and I'd need a new beast of a power supply, so that would be atleast 100$+, so I can manage with it till my next paycheck.
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Postby ampnetwork on Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:36 pm

nub wrote:Yeah well I've decided to just upgrade my newer system. I have a budget of $300. So what do you think about this?:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814130303


These things are always running out of stock. They must be the most popular models out there. I'm definitely thinking about buying one. Unfortunately I'm a bit worried/confused. It says it's for PCI-E 2.2. CPU-Z states that my mainboard is just PCI-E. Not like 2.2 or something like that. Would this be a problem?

Please give me some feedback asap before these things run out of stock again!

EDIT: Ugh nevermind. Dell was shitty enough to put in only a PCI-E x16 motherboard. Expandable configuration my ass! I hate Dell...


PCI-E 2.2 wtf is that i thought theres only PCI-E 2.0,1.1 and 1.0.

Also if that card(newegg deactivated the product) is a 8800GT 512MB/256MB,8800GTS 512MB(G92),HD3850 or a HD3870 it should work with mobos with PCI-E 1.1 or 1.0(of course you need it to have 16x lanes)plus the 9 series(you might get disappointed with the link i got on my sig thought it doesn't say its the flagship).

As a matter of fact i got my Power Color HD3870 up and running on a mobo that doesn't have PCI-E 2.0(Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3R),its backward compatible with PCI-E 1.1 and 1.0 :D
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