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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby The Wanderer on Thu Sep 04, 2008 4:05 pm

I'm going to sit Chrome out for a while, that EULA was just wrong. They changed it, but still... it's not like google to do that...
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby BaRRaKID on Thu Sep 04, 2008 7:03 pm

The EULA is written by lawyers, and they have almost a template that is used in every application.
Still you guys are exaggerating, and i don't think you understand what this means. Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it, and you can't sue them for it, it's not about patent stealing or copyright infringement, they just want to be sure that retarded companies won't sue Google if their site shows up in a ad for chrome.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby Blink on Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:38 pm

BaRRaKID wrote:The EULA is written by lawyers, and they have almost a template that is used in every application.
Still you guys are exaggerating, and i don't think you understand what this means. Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it, and you can't sue them for it, it's not about patent stealing or copyright infringement, they just want to be sure that retarded companies won't sue Google if their site shows up in a ad for chrome.


That makes sense, but why didn't they argue their case instead of changing it?
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby Mr. Happy on Thu Sep 04, 2008 8:44 pm

The Wanderer wrote:I'm going to sit Chrome out for a while, that EULA was just wrong. They changed it, but still... it's not like google to do that...


Of course it is.

Google is all about collecting, indexing, storing, analysing and using information about how people use the internet. What better medium to collect that information that at the source?

Though google is "moral" they do things that if other companies did I would boycott them. But for some reason I trust google.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby ghost12332 on Thu Sep 04, 2008 11:40 pm

Because Google, provides my Email! And if I didn't trust them.... Well, I don't think about that. I know SOMEONE there has access to that SQL database with all the passwords :hurr:

Google is a good company. I like them. It was just a template flaw in their EULA, not a big deal to me. They have ALOT of really good services that ALOT of really good people use.

Google is Not Microsoft :smt075
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby ampnetwork on Sat Sep 06, 2008 11:33 am

I haven't installed FF3 yet and here comes a new web browser,screw it i'll just try it next year i can't be bother with 2 web browser changes at a time but i find the interface nice so chrome will have to wait.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby RC-1290 on Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:02 pm

Blink wrote:
BaRRaKID wrote:The EULA is written by lawyers, and they have almost a template that is used in every application.
Still you guys are exaggerating, and i don't think you understand what this means. Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it, and you can't sue them for it, it's not about patent stealing or copyright infringement, they just want to be sure that retarded companies won't sue Google if their site shows up in a ad for chrome.


That makes sense, but why didn't they argue their case instead of changing it?

The Eula just wasn't adjusted for a browser. Now it is.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby Puhnkss on Sat Sep 06, 2008 3:38 pm

RC-1290 wrote:
Blink wrote:
BaRRaKID wrote:The EULA is written by lawyers, and they have almost a template that is used in every application.
Still you guys are exaggerating, and i don't think you understand what this means. Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it, and you can't sue them for it, it's not about patent stealing or copyright infringement, they just want to be sure that retarded companies won't sue Google if their site shows up in a ad for chrome.


That makes sense, but why didn't they argue their case instead of changing it?

The Eula just wasn't adjusted for a browser. Now it is.


Just? JUST? If it wasnt right for a web browser what app is it appropriate for?! I dont want that in any EULA, tho it already is. I actually entertained the idea that it was just me overreacting, but ya know, it's really not becasue like it or not, deliberate or accidental, Google just tried to screw everyone who uses/ed thier browser (as well as thier other apps that supposedly still have that clause). People are right to be offended.

Also I take issue with the advertisement theory, because those lawyers are paid alot of money to get it right, "that weren't no accident." What dip shit would try and sue google over free advertisment of their web page anyway? All it would take google to do is send them an email asking permission. Even if they did try and sue, it's Google for crying out loud.

Naw, I disagree with the "Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it" line of logic. Just becuase google may not ever abuse the right to own anything you publish through the app, they still legaly can and you can't do skat, they own anyting you produce. And thats just wrong imho. /over excited rant. :?
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby ScarT on Sun Sep 07, 2008 5:22 pm

ghost12332 wrote:Because Google, provides my Email! And if I didn't trust them.... Well, I don't think about that. I know SOMEONE there has access to that SQL database with all the passwords :hurr:

Google is a good company. I like them. It was just a template flaw in their EULA, not a big deal to me. They have ALOT of really good services that ALOT of really good people use.

Google is Not Microsoft :smt075

Of course there is. If you knew a little about data storage, you'd know the passwords are encoded and can't be read by humans.

So many people have misinterpreted the EULA. Google doesn't own everything you write etc. using Chrome, they just have the license to it which means exactly what BaRRaKID said earlier.

First release of this kicked the shit out of Firefox and Internet Explorer IMO. Those that doubt that, plugin support is on the way ;)
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby BaRRaKID on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:07 pm

Puhnkss wrote:
RC-1290 wrote:
Blink wrote:
BaRRaKID wrote:The EULA is written by lawyers, and they have almost a template that is used in every application.
Still you guys are exaggerating, and i don't think you understand what this means. Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it, and you can't sue them for it, it's not about patent stealing or copyright infringement, they just want to be sure that retarded companies won't sue Google if their site shows up in a ad for chrome.


That makes sense, but why didn't they argue their case instead of changing it?

The Eula just wasn't adjusted for a browser. Now it is.


Just? JUST? If it wasnt right for a web browser what app is it appropriate for?! I dont want that in any EULA, tho it already is. I actually entertained the idea that it was just me overreacting, but ya know, it's really not becasue like it or not, deliberate or accidental, Google just tried to screw everyone who uses/ed thier browser (as well as thier other apps that supposedly still have that clause). People are right to be offended.

Also I take issue with the advertisement theory, because those lawyers are paid alot of money to get it right, "that weren't no accident." What dip shit would try and sue google over free advertisment of their web page anyway? All it would take google to do is send them an email asking permission. Even if they did try and sue, it's Google for crying out loud.

Naw, I disagree with the "Basically this is made so that if Google wants to show your site running on chrome for publicity or marketing they can do it" line of logic. Just becuase google may not ever abuse the right to own anything you publish through the app, they still legaly can and you can't do skat, they own anyting you produce. And thats just wrong imho. /over excited rant. :?


If you don't like it, then don't use chrome. Everyone with half a brain can easily understand that google has no interest in stealing anything you created, and that the EULA is just to protect them against abusing companies after an easy buck. Every product has stupid end user rules, i bet you've never even read an EULA before, because if you did you would see that they are all like this, you can start by the so praised GNU if you want.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby xoqolatl on Sun Sep 07, 2008 6:34 pm

ProZak wrote:
ghost12332 wrote:I know SOMEONE there has access to that SQL database with all the passwords :hurr:

Of course there is. If you knew a little about data storage, you'd know the passwords are encoded and can't be read by humans.

In fact passwords are not even readable by nonhumans. Only the key is stored which is a product of one-way algorithm and cannot be used to retrieve the password. That's why every high-security system should have no way of reminding lost passwords; only to reset them.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby Puhnkss on Sun Sep 07, 2008 8:05 pm

Patronise much there Barrakid? I've said most of what I felt like saying on the subject, even if it seems exaggerated to some, so I bid you adieu. :smt005
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby MrTwoVideoCards on Sun Sep 07, 2008 10:12 pm

Puhnkss wrote:Patronise much there Barrakid? I've said most of what I felt like saying on the subject, even if it seems exaggerated to some, so I bid you adieu. :smt005


Be gone then! Anyways though it's been pretty sweet for me, been using it for a week, and of course it's beta, so theres a few issues. But hot damn, it works great.
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby Blink on Mon Sep 08, 2008 3:32 pm

Has anyone else had issues with Chrome importing from Firefox 3?
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Re: Google Chrome - New Web Browser

Postby zombie@computer on Mon Sep 08, 2008 4:58 pm

Blink wrote:Has anyone else had issues with Chrome importing from Firefox 3?

nope, flawlessly here. Only didnt pick my startuppages (i have three, it only picked one)
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