The Official Interlopers "Map Pimpage Thread"

[Saxon]

Oh wow, that AO really looks nice. Question: what happens when you take a map compiled in CSGO and load it up in an older version of Source - aside from the "does it even load" question, I'd be interested to see if the AO is still baked in...

[Sathor]

Awesome. I was already afraid I had to fake AO with overlays and decals for my CS:GO map (de_investment) ... Is the detail of the AO dependent on the lightmap scale?

@ Saxon: Afaik CS:GO uses a new map format. I doubt you can even load it in older engine versions.

[Will_B]

Recompiled my Minecraft map in the new engine, sweet holy hell the AO mang looks, just, lovely!

This is an odd request but I would LOVE to see screens of the map in Hammer, you've done an excellent job nailing that look.

[joe_rogers_11155]

OK, I have looked at several "before and after" pictures and I still can't tell what ambient occlusion even IS.

[Hollow]

Sathor - afaik, it doesn't matter what scale you compile at, it seems to produce the same result each time, though I haven't experimented with this enough to be honest, Apparently according to Tay, this isn't TRUE AO, it's some sort of advanced radiosity baking computation (or some shit) which also exists in the ASW engine. The AO-looking output is a 'side effect' of this new feature. I'm guessing 1/4 life or MrTwo know more about this than me, so I'll find out exactly what is up.

Will_B - Sure. I'll upload some pics once I'm back from London this evening! Also thanks for the kind words!

joe_rogers - You see the smooth shadowing/shading that appears on brush edges and corners? That's what this 'AO' does to brushes. You don't get these quite vulgar flat looking sides of geometry that intersect, and it gives scenes a greater sense of depth IMO.

Again I'll get some comparison shots up when I'm home, unless someone beats me to it

[nub]

Oh so it's baked in to the lightmaps or something? Well that's probably a million times faster than dynamic AO being calculated in real time. Dynamic AO is hardly even necessary in my opninion.

[TheDanishMaster]

Here's my vmt for the wet road texture

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"LightmappedGeneric"
{
   "$basetexture" "custom/road_wet"
   "$bumpmap" "custom/road_wet_nrm"
   "$envmap" "env_cubemap"
   "$envmaptint" "[ 5 5 5 ]"
   "$envmapcontrast" 1
   "$envmapsaturation" 1
   "$normalmapalphaenvmapmask" 1
   "$surfaceprop" "concrete"
}

It is basicly just the

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"$envmaptint" "[ 5 5 5 ]"

you need to mess around with to achieve this look.

Also, should I go with

or

?
And should I can't lower the lightmap grid scale to get sexy shadows here because it already complained about too much light detail in the full version of the map

[jangalomph]

First one dani.

[cz_squishy]

If only this was real time

[Gary]

Lighting preview in Hammer?

[cz_squishy]

Ray-traced, notice the shadows on the ground,pillars and apparently the lower crate.

[Gary]

That works in ASW as well.

[cz_squishy]

Still needs lighting fixes and detailing

[MáØ]

Shitty *totallyoriginal/sarcasm* STALKER-ish thing.

[Black_Stormy]

Why doesn't anybody use the assets that came with the super 8 viral marketing level that shipped with portal 2? They would fit right into your level there, squishy.