Nuclear Dawn accused of edited media

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Postby Caste on Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:44 pm

straight from DaveL

1. The RTS overhead view with HUD

The hud you see in the magazine is in fact a draft interface of the final, however, the functionality you see on the hud is fully implemented and functional. The reason for the concept art overlay is that the elements and features shown on the hud are constantly evolving and expanding. The current implementation of the hud is meant to be functional, easily expandable, and most importantly, suited for play testing and development, not to be pretty eye candy. Effekted from splash damage spent a weekend building the magazine version of the hud from what was at the time, our hud concept. We used the GUI concepts because we want to convey to our fans the feel and layout of the game as it will be when it is finished. We do not want to confuse them with a wholly utilitarian developer’s interface.


2. The image of firing the weapon at three enemies

These are shots of the first “outside” area of Nuclear Dawn. The map was built during the two week period before the magazine deadline in March. All props and components of the scene were developed by Sa74n, PhilipK, and SJ during this short period. The troopers were in fact placed because there wasn’t adequate time to compile the player models into the game and arrange the scene in a testing session; however, the models are in fact real and they are currently in-game, animated and playing as they are seen in the magazine screen shot.


3. The image of the non-commander HUD

We refer to the RTS HUD explanation. Aesthetically pleasing user interfaces will be implemented during the last development spiral before release.


4. "And the fact of the matter is a great deal of the art you see was made by team members who have long since realized this truth and left the team long ago."

Not one artist has left the Nuclear Dawn team since January 2006. Although an animator has and thus we have been actively been recruiting for an animator since 20th May 2006.

As a team, we sincerely apologize to anyone who felt their heart sink upon reading these accusations or who may feel betrayed as a result of this whole ordeal. We are devoted to our fans and the mod community in general. Our intentions steadfastly remain: to release a ground breaking and freely accessible mod of the highest quality. Accusations like this only further cement our sentiments.




It seems that the accusations launched at Nuclear Dawn were not only true, but completely acknowledged by one of the mod's leaders. It would also appear this act on the mod's part was done in order to create the illusion of progress for the magazine Computer Gaming World. What message will this send to the Half Life 2 community?

Hey, a magazine offered them to get the word on their mod out. They didn't have a whole lot placed in stone, what are they going to do? Tell the magazine to wait a few months? No. Things in mods, especially alpha mods, change.

I really don't know what the blogger was trying to bring about, and since he refuses to come out and say who he is, I'm expecting some jealous former-modder or rival

ND has been in the playtesting/alpha stage for a while, they have shots to prove it
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Postby InternalRage on Fri Jun 02, 2006 9:58 pm

I think we're in the dark here until he decides to show us proof of who he is, like Caste mentioned.
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Postby Ennui on Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:17 pm

Kind of... strange that he didn't reveal who he is, given that he seems fairly sure about all this vaporware business.

Ah, the joys of being able to stay anonymous.

I'd be wholly unsurprised if I know the guy, though, since I'm friends with a rather lot of people who are viciously opposed to ND.
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Postby InternalRage on Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:19 pm

[quote="Ennui"]Ah, the joys of being able to stay anonymous.quote]

In other words,

Ah, the joys of the internet.
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Postby Ennui on Fri Jun 02, 2006 10:47 pm

That's what I had written originally, but I replaced it with anonymous at the last second :P
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Postby mabufo on Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:03 pm

He probably works in the industry, and plans on selling the mod to valve.
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Postby marnamai on Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:11 pm

mabufo wrote:He probably works in the industry, and plans on selling the mod to valve.

I was thinking from the beginning that they would go commercial ... wait and see ...
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Postby mabufo on Fri Jun 02, 2006 11:53 pm

mabufo wrote:He probably works in the industry, and plans on selling the mod to valve.


EDIT: I'm referring to DaveL of course.
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Postby Ennui on Sat Jun 03, 2006 12:25 am

Dave's not employed in the industry.
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Postby Spartan on Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:06 am

I don't mind if they had to do a little trickery to meet a media deadline. Just as long as they don't pull a Turok Evolution on us.

However if what Vivi says is true and the mod leader tries to steal people from other mods then I just lost a lot of respect for them.
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Postby Kremator on Sat Jun 03, 2006 1:50 am

Spartan wrote:I don't mind if they had to do a little trickery to meet a media deadline. Just as long as they don't pull a Turok Evolution on us.

However if what Vivi says is true and the mod leader tries to steal people from other mods then I just lost a lot of respect for them.


They have been trying to recruit our coder and lead coder for sometime, after NF died for a few weeks, the leade coder joined only to leave afterwards. Our coder have described DaveL as a person of many detestable qualities and I really dont like the prospect of someone trying to recruit MY team members.

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Postby mabufo on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:21 am

CREMATOR666 wrote:They have been trying to recruit our coder and lead coder for sometime, after NF died for a few weeks, the leade coder joined only to leave afterwards. Our coder have described DaveL as a person of many detestable qualities and I really dont like the prospect of someone trying to recruit MY team members.

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That sort of conduct on DaveL's part has no place in the mod community.
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Postby Docm30 on Sat Jun 03, 2006 2:27 am

Spartan wrote:I don't mind if they had to do a little trickery to meet a media deadline. Just as long as they don't pull a Turok Evolution on us.

However if what Vivi says is true and the mod leader tries to steal people from other mods then I just lost a lot of respect for them.

It's all too true, DaveL has been trying to recruit members from a lot of mods I hear, Flanders Field included. But if what they say about DaveL is true, it's not about needing members, it's about killing the "competition", I believe.
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Postby Ennui on Sat Jun 03, 2006 3:12 am

I don't think he considers it a competition, judging from conversations I've had with him. He does recruit very proactively though.
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Postby SNIPER-X on Sat Jun 03, 2006 7:40 am

Spartan wrote:I don't mind if they had to do a little trickery to meet a media deadline. Just as long as they don't pull a Turok Evolution on us.

However if what Vivi says is true and the mod leader tries to steal people from other mods then I just lost a lot of respect for them.


Well, recruiting is one thing. But it's your team members decisions in the end on what they want to choose to do. So it's no ones fault but their own who make the decisions. Just as if Bill gates could offer me a great position at microsoft. Doesn't mean I have to take it. All he can do is offer it, but in no way in this world can he decide for me, but only oneself who's been offered.

So you can't exactly blame DaveL for what he's done with your own mod teams leaders, workers, ect.. It's the team members you should have problems with, or figure out what you havn't offered in your mod team that can inspire your members to a greater extent to stick around full-time, dedicated, ect.
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