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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby xoqolatl on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:14 pm

I have tested my Q6600 on P35-DS4 (which is the same but with heatpipes) up to 3690MHz (410x9), so the motherboard is all good. 3GHz is not THAT much for a Q6600, and it's very easy and painless process. Giagbyte boards may not have all fancy lights and all, but I love their quality - best in motherboard business, IMO. Well, maybe tied with DFI.


Really, you wont be disappointed, especially when vrad, vvis and vbsp are multithreaded and take advantage of up to 16 cores (AFAIK).
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Jasard on Wed Mar 26, 2008 6:46 pm

This basically hits my budget bang on (if I were to include various other parts I've included like Windows and Printer):

Coolermaster RC-1000 Cosmos Silent Full Tower Case (£119.84)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-144-CM

Asus P5K-E WiFi Intel P35 (Socket 775) PCI-Express DDR2 Motherboard (£93.99)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MB-241-AS

Western Digital Caviar SE16 500GB SATA-II 16MB Cache - OEM
(£58.74)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HD-120-WD

OCZ 4GB (2x2GB) PC2-8500C5 1066MHz Reaper HPC Edition Dual Channel DDR2 (£99.86)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MY-110-OC

Intel Core 2 Quad Pro Q6600 "Energy Efficient SLACR 95W Edition" 2.40GHz (1066FSB) - OEM (£145.69)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CP-172-IN

BFG GeForce 8800 GTS OC 512MB GDDR3 HDTV/Dual DVI (PCI-Express) - Retail (£164.49)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=GX-059-BG

Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 (£17.61)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=HS-017-AR&tool=3

Corsair TX 650W ATX2.2 SLi Compliant PSU
(£76.36)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=CA-008-CS

Samsung SM-223BW 22" Widescreen LCD Monitor - Glossy Black (£164.49)
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/showproduct.php?prodid=MO-056-SA
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Bema on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:32 pm

xoqolatl wrote:yourself an aftermarket cooler like Scythe Katana and set that Q6600 to 3.0GHz.


That was my plan - although I forgot to factor in the extra fan cooler thingy. I'm going to have to get one aren't I?

It's looking like tomorrow is set to be the order day. Thanks again guys for your help so far. :)
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Jasard on Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:39 pm

I think my order day should be tomorrow too :D
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby xoqolatl on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:32 pm

Stock cooler is not going to handle Q6600 @ 3.0GHz. Katana is just within 29euro price limit and is pretty good for its price. If you dont mind paying a bit more, get a Tuniq Tower - worlds best air cooler (almost, beaten only by Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme).
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Jasard on Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:35 pm

xoqolatl, whats the difference between 8500 and 6400 ram, because I'm thinking its probably not worth me getting 8500
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Bema on Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:17 pm

xoqolatl wrote:Stock cooler is not going to handle Q6600 @ 3.0GHz. Katana is just within 29euro price limit and is pretty good for its price. If you dont mind paying a bit more, get a Tuniq Tower - worlds best air cooler (almost, beaten only by Thermalright Ultra-120 Extreme).


Thought as much. I'll go with the Katana. :-)
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby xoqolatl on Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:40 am

rewKe wrote:xoqolatl, whats the difference between 8500 and 6400 ram, because I'm thinking its probably not worth me getting 8500

The difference is it's rated speed.
PC2-6400 = 800MHz
PC2-8500 = 1066MHz
PC2-8500 will be faster, but memory clock does not have the same impact as CPU clock or memory amount.
Another thing is CL (CAS Latency), main memory timing; 800MHz at CL4 is faster than 800MHz CL5. That particular kit you have chosen has the same ICs and PCB, but two performance bins: one is 800 CL4, second is 1066 CL5. I'd get the cheaper one, as they both have the same capability, only default speed differs.
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby rb_lestr on Fri Mar 28, 2008 2:49 pm

Ok, after some more comparisons and research i've come up with this improved spec:

Case:
Case: Gigabyte Triton 180 Black
PSU: Corsair Powersupply 550W Black, ATX/EPS, 120mm Fan, 4xSATA, SLI, WxHxL

Bones:
Mainboard: MSI P35 NEO2-FR
CPU: Intel Core 2 Quad Q6600 2.4GHz
GFX: EVGA GeForce 8800GT 512MB
RAM: Crucial DDR2 BallistiX TRACER PC8500 2048MB

Extras:
CPU Fan: Zalman CNPS9700 LED Ultra Quiet CPU Cooler

Again, i need some advice on these parts, the RAM and Gfx mostly.
I think i'm close to my final rig spec now.
CPU will be OC'd to 3.0ghz and higher hopefully.
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby xoqolatl on Fri Mar 28, 2008 6:56 pm

Very nice!
I admit to have no experience with recent MSI boards, but from what I have heard it should handle a quad well.
I'd also consider getting 4 gb of some cheaper ram, since 4 vs 2 gb is a much bigger difference than 800MHz vs 1066MHz. For example, there is a OCZ ReaperX 4gb 1000/CL5 kit for 15€ more, and it might even run 1066/CL5 with +0.1V.
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby rb_lestr on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:21 pm

How about either of these?

OCZ DDR2 PC6400 4GB KIT, Reaper X HPC (CL4-4-3-15)
OCZ DDR2 PC8000 4GB KIT, Reaper X HPC (CL5-5-5-18)

or
OCZ Platinum DDR2 PC6400
?

So many RAM types, its hard to find ones you're content with.
Need to be able to pick some with confidence.
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Jasard on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:31 pm

I got the platinum
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby rb_lestr on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:32 pm

Are they good?
Have you OC'd them?
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby Jasard on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:37 pm

Er well it arrives tomorrow :P I know for a fact that it is very popular ram, good cost, good performance. I was thinking of getting the reaper but felt the jump in cost wasn't necessary.

Ordered all of my new PC yesterday, all should arrive tommorow.
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Re: New Rig Feedback.

Postby xoqolatl on Fri Mar 28, 2008 7:51 pm

It's not me who has to be content with RAM, it's you :D

Both ReaperX kits you linked to are the same, just different SPD profiles. They should OC the same.
There is a 1000/CL5 kit of Platinum for 1 euro more - they are a bit worse than ReaperX, but a lot cheaper. ReaperX 1000/CL5 kit seems to be better, but its up to you if you are willing to pay more for marginal increase in performance.

You have to factor your expected OC into the equation:
safe estimate is 3.2-3.4GHz, all Q6600 and all boards should do that without much problems. I even made you a table in Excel :) There are your target CPU speed (3.4-3.6 is most likely) and resulting RAM speeds with different dividers. 1:1 divider is not there as it's the same as FSB. To avoid confusion: these are RAM bus speeds; multiply them by 2 to get DDR speed, then multiply that by 8 to get a PC2 rating (like PC2-8000)

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At 400FSB you can run that Platinum kit at 4:5 divider for 1000MHz, tighten some subtimings and you're good to go.

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