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Postby zombie@computer on Tue May 17, 2011 7:35 pm

If the next few posts arent discussion but OMFG YUTROLL WTFBBQ im locking this thread. This is General DISCUSSION. Get used to it or leave.
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby joe_rogers_11155 on Tue May 17, 2011 7:38 pm

No, Saxon is right guys. Many many studios have made carbon copies of Valve games and have met with way more success. Games such as APB: All Points Bulletin, Diakatana, and Hello Kitty: Roller Rescue easily trump the cabal system and prove that strict deadlines and oppresive management can triumph over the free spirit.

I am extremely worried about the future of the Half-Life series...I wish Valve would just sell the Half-Life IP to Activision already.

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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby source-maps on Tue May 17, 2011 7:40 pm

joe_rogers_11155 wrote:No, he's right guys. Many many studios have made carbon copies of Valve games and have met with way more success. Games such as APB: All Points Bulletin, Diakatana, and Hello Kitty: Roller Rescue easily trump the cabal system and prove that strict deadlines and oppresive management can triumph over the free spirit.


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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Sporkeh on Tue May 17, 2011 7:44 pm

joe_rogers_11155 wrote:No, Saxon is right guys. Many many studios have made carbon copies of Valve games and have met with way more success. Games such as APB: All Points Bulletin, Diakatana, and Hello Kitty: Roller Rescue easily trump the cabal system and prove that strict deadlines and oppresive management can triumph over the free spirit.

I am extremely worried about the future of the Half-Life series...I wish Valve would just sell the Half-Life IP to Activision already.

PS: I got ninja'd by zombie@computer


Lmao, how are any of those games copies of Valve games?

Just to make a point, both Modern Warfare games are infinitely more successful than the Half-Life games. :smt023
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby source-maps on Tue May 17, 2011 7:47 pm

Sporkeh wrote:Just to make a point, both Modern Warfare games are infinitely more successful than the Half-Life games. :smt023


I guess HL didn't redefine how people did FPS story telling but MW was.. silly me
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Sporkeh on Tue May 17, 2011 7:49 pm

source-maps wrote:
Sporkeh wrote:Just to make a point, both Modern Warfare games are infinitely more successful than the Half-Life games. :smt023


I guess HL didn't redefine how people did FPS story telling but MW was.. silly me


But that wasn't the point, was it?
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby joe_rogers_11155 on Tue May 17, 2011 7:54 pm

@sporkeh: i know right??? thats why IW should make the next HL game. Valve seriously needs to shut down because their self-destructive development style is going to run them into the ground. their only hope is to get into the mobile development market and hire some strict managers to replace slackers like doug lombardi or chet faliszek.

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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby source-maps on Tue May 17, 2011 8:13 pm

bekey wrote:Cannot do that, sir. It has shit SDK tools, broken code and way inferior to a lot of other engines.


I think nobody here disagrees that those tools, engine and such defo need a massive upgrade.. but some users don't understand that has nothing to do with innovating game play
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Sporkeh on Tue May 17, 2011 8:23 pm

joe_rogers_11155 wrote:@sporkeh: i know right??? thats why IW should make the next HL game. Valve seriously needs to shut down because their self-destructive development style is going to run them into the ground. their only hope is to get into the mobile development market and hire some strict managers to replace slackers like doug lombardi or chet faliszek.


Maybe they should, might make the game more enjoyable rather than a... more advanced version of the first game.

Also, hint: you can have innovative game play with good engines as well!
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby joe_rogers_11155 on Tue May 17, 2011 8:36 pm

I guess some people will always think that the pyrite is actually gold, no matter how much education they get.
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Sporkeh on Tue May 17, 2011 8:58 pm

joe_rogers_11155 wrote:I guess some people will always think that the pyrite is actually gold, no matter how much education they get.


That's a pretty good analogy for people who think Valve and the Source engine are perfect.

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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby joe_rogers_11155 on Tue May 17, 2011 9:24 pm

It's also a blindingly fitting analogy for people who think that game quality is judged solely on polygon counts and render distances.

I am also surprised that you know what pyrite is.
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Sporkeh on Tue May 17, 2011 9:33 pm

joe_rogers_11155 wrote:It's also a blindingly fitting analogy for people who think that game quality is judged solely on polygon counts and render distances.


Nobody ever mentioned those. :smt023
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby stoopdapoop on Tue May 17, 2011 9:43 pm

Hehe, I'm a serious valve fanboy. I think don't think that any developer in the past 15 years has had a track record with such consistent critically acclaimed games.

Epic, hasn't made anything worth playing in years. Id is great, but they've got similarly slow development cycles. I enjoy(ed) games by maxis before they started making "properly managed planned projects". Sure there are others, but fuckem.

As for the OP's article, this is sorta old news.
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Re: Valves confirms themselves no HL2: EP3...kinda

Postby Saxon on Wed May 18, 2011 2:01 pm

stoopdapoop wrote:Hehe, I'm a serious valve fanboy. I think don't think that any developer in the past 15 years has had a track record with such consistent critically acclaimed games.


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http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/half- ... pisode-one
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/count ... ition-zero
http://www.metacritic.com/game/xbox/counter-strike
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/day-of-defeat-source
http://www.metacritic.com/game/pc/alien-swarm

source-maps wrote:I think nobody here disagrees that those tools, engine and such defo need a massive upgrade.. but some users don't understand that has nothing to do with innovating game play

LOL

Yeah it's really easy to implement creative ideas to the Source engine!
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