Angled Corner /Arch

[JamesHarpe]

So I've been mapping for some time now and one thing has always got me. I have no idea how to correctly build a corner arch that will actually line up. I've don't this many times by overlapping the blocks sloppily. Most of the time this causes many errors later on. This is basically what im trying to do.

[wereMole]

Uh - just create the whole thing on the grid and then rotate it?

Your explanation and picture is a bit unclear.

[LordDz]

Also, func_detail it. You could also use the vertex tool to align it to the grid, if you want to modify the shape of it later on, tho it's not really recommended.

[wereMole]

If you haven't tried that before be prepared for endless frustration with vertices snapping back to grid after closing/opening hammer.

[jimonions]

You could always use instances for easy angles. There was some documentation on it somewhere online.

[JamesHarpe]

This is the beginning of an bunker I'm building. Basically what I want is for the joints or vertex to align. The vertex tool is what I usually use, but with a corner like this, it is impossible to even it on the grid. They will come out warped or uneven. Spinning and aligning is impossible when more then one block is angled and you need to spin it all at once. Also func_detail causes leaks and compile problems later when working with area portals. I have a feeling there is no possible correct way to do this simple task.

[LordDz]

You func_detail it and then have nodraw walls behind them. Otherwise your compile time will increase a lot for every arch you place.

[wereMole]

I'm still completely unsure on what exactly you are trying to achieve and how you are doing it. The pictures are very unclear. Are you using the arch-tool? It looks like you're just creating brushes, putting them in place and then start manipulating vertices to get them in the right shape/position. Can you be more clear? Especially a bigger screenshot with a more clearly textured (dev) 3D shot and appropriately zoomed in 2D views would help.

[JamesHarpe]

I'm still completely unsure on what exactly you are trying to achieve and how you are doing it. The pictures are very unclear. Are you using the arch-tool? It looks like you're just creating brushes, putting them in place and then start manipulating vertices to get them in the right shape/position. Can you be more clear? Especially a bigger screenshot with a more clearly textured (dev) 3D shot and appropriately zoomed in 2D views would help.

I'm doing exactly what you typed, though I'm not using the arch tool. Vertice manipulation results in miss shaped squares. Rotating results in bad vertice connections. I thought I could turn off the snap to grid, but that would leek as well. I'm just trying to move the top portion that slants upwards, and is angled. "The corner" Somehow I can't ever get this to align right without it over lapping, or using manipulative tools. I also want the block above angled, and to cross over to the other side of the bunker, and the other angled corner, thus making an x on the ceiling, connecting all four angled corners.

[[KIRBY]]

why dont you simply use displacements?
or why dont you export it to 3ds max and then export it back into source as model file?

[Lhorkan]

Rotating results in bad vertice connections.

Have you considered rotating, and then using the clip tool to cut off the part that connects to the wall so the vertices match up?

[LordDz]

Random question, but just had to ask due to the image on the right. You're not using Carve are you?

[JamesHarpe]

Random question, but just had to ask due to the image on the right. You're not using Carve are you?

Nope.

[LordDz]

Good. Keep it up.

[Riomaki]

I don't quite understand what you're trying to build, but if it were up to me, I'd just vertex manipulate the whole thing so everything is snapped along nice 45-degree angles and then func_detail it and add supporting props to fill in detail that would be too hard to add with angled brushes.