Static prop lighting issue

[Statua]

I'm having some issues with my map. In large areas, static props are only being lit by the ambient value of the light_environment. Yet the same props in other areas are being lit by both. It's not the props themselves or the origin. I've tried fixing that with the lighting origin setting. It seems that if a static prop is in that specific area, it doesn't receive sun rays, only ambient rays. There are no brushes to explain why this is occurring. I compiled with -staticproppolys and -textureshadows on full and final. It also seems that while I do have staticproppolys enabled, static props do not cast shadows on the ground, at all. Dynamic entities such as prop_dynamic or props you spawn in garrysmod don't seem to be affected by this issue.


The trees behind the fence are in the 3D skybox. The pine trees in the 3D sky are lit because I'm fairly certain the texture on the model is unlitgeneric.


Here's a compile log:

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================== VBSP ==================



materialPath: C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\SteamApps\common\Half-Life 2\ep2\materials
Loading C:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.vmf
ConVarRef mat_reduceparticles doesn't point to an existing ConVar
Can't find surfaceprop asphalt for material OCRP/URBAN/ROAD_1_02, using default
material "ajacks/ben_paintblue" not found.
Material not found!: AJACKS/BEN_PAINTBLUE
Warning in .VMT file ($envmaptint): no ']' or '}' found in vector key "$envmaptint".
Did you forget to surround the vector with "s?
Could not locate 'GameData' key in c:\program files (x86)\steam\steamapps\common\half-life 2\ep2\gameinfo.txt
Patching WVT material: maps/rp_rockford_v0p/nature/blendmilground008b_2_wvt_patch
Patching WVT material: maps/rp_rockford_v0p/nature/blendgrassdirt01_noprop_wvt_patch
fixing up env_cubemap materials on brush sides...
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...100...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10Processing areas...done (0)
Building Faces...done (0)
Chop Details...done (0)
Find Visible Detail Sides...
Merged 3358 detail faces...done (1)
Merging details...done (0)
FixTjuncs...
PruneNodes...
WriteBSP...
done (5)
writing C:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.prt...Building visibility clusters...
done (0)
Can't load skybox file skybox/painted to build the default cubemap!
Can't load skybox file skybox/painted to build the default cubemap!
Finding displacement neighbors...
Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.
Finding lightmap sample positions...
Displacement Alpha : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Building Physics collision data...
done (2) (2661060 bytes)
Placing detail props : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
Compacting texture/material tables...
Reduced 10673 texinfos to 6476
Reduced 1677 texdatas to 1487 (88537 bytes to 79556)
Writing C:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.bsp
28 seconds elapsed

================== VVIS ==================




8 threads
reading c:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.bsp
reading c:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.prt
3270 portalclusters
8375 numportals
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...100...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10Optimized: 17164 visible clusters (0.82%)
Total clusters visible: 2091332
Average clusters visible: 639
Building PAS...
Average clusters audible: 2523
visdatasize:1763911  compressed from 2720640
writing c:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.bsp
2 hours, 15 minutes, 9 seconds elapsed

================== VRAD ==================




[Reading texlights from 'lights.rad']
[48 texlights parsed from 'lights.rad']

Loading c:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.bsp
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_foliage\cedar01_mip0.vtf
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_foliage\arbre01.vtf
Loaded alpha texture materials\Models\props_wasteland\fence_alpha.vtf
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/urban_streettree01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_pot_large01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_small_palm01.dx80.vtx"
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_foliage\Mall_trees_branches01.vtf
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_big_plant01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_bigleaves_plant03.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_bush02.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_pot_squarexl01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/urban_tree_giant01_skysphere.dx80.vtx"
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_forest\FenceBarbedWire_Wire.vtf
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_forest\FenceBarbedWire_Wire2.vtf
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/urban_tree_giant01.dx80.vtx"
30565 faces
22 degenerate faces
23960970 square feet [3450379776.00 square inches]
729 Displacements
8164477 Square Feet [1175684736.00 Square Inches]
30543 patches before subdivision
565693 patches after subdivision
1071 direct lights
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transfer lists: 612.9 megs
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Build Patch/Sample Hash Table(s).....Done<0.4621 sec>
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10FinalLightFace Done
Computing detail prop lighting : 0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10
0 of 0 (0% of) surface lights went in leaf ambient cubes.
0...1...2...3...4...5...6...7...8...9...10Writing leaf ambient...done
Ready to Finish

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planes               19400/65536      388000/1310720  (29.6%)
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edges               149438/256000     597752/1024000  (58.4%)
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HDR ambient table     9696/65536       38784/262144   (14.8%)
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Level flags = 0

Total triangle count: 61319
Writing c:\mapsrc\rp_rockford_v0p.bsp
47 minutes, 1 second elapsed


I've tried rebuilding the 3D skybox. I've tried rebuilding the entire maps skybox. I've tried lighting origin. I've tried creating clean new static prop entities (instead of copypasta props). I've tried not using any compile prarmeters.

Any ideas?

[beach]

Hi,
you can try to put info_lighting in the truck and link him with the prop_static
In source engine the lighting of a static prop is define by the object's origin. So if the origin of the tree is in the ground it appears black.

[Statua]

I've tried lighting origin, as I've mentioned in the OP.

[beach]

Oh sorry, i think i have skip this part

I found this in your log

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entdata [variable] 930489/393216 (236.6%) VERY FULL!

It's a lot of entities ..

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Found a displacement edge abutting multiple other edges.

I dont know if it's really an error but if it's about your floor displacement you should worry about that.

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Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/urban_streettree01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_pot_large01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_small_palm01.dx80.vtx"
Loaded alpha texture materials\models\props_foliage\Mall_trees_branches01.vtf
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_big_plant01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_bigleaves_plant03.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_bush02.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/mall_pot_squarexl01.dx80.vtx"
Error! Unable to load file "models/props_foliage/urban_tree_giant01_skysphere.dx80.vtx"

Custom model ? Or CS:GO models ? Did your black tree model is in this list ? If it is, you should fix this by compiling your model properly i think ( Did someone still use Dx8 ? )

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22 degenerate faces

Usually it's not a dangerous error but who knows ? Sometimes source is hard to understand.

[Riomaki]

Y'know, I think I've heard about degenerate faces sometimes causing something like this, although I've never witnessed it myself. The Interlopers error page states:

"Rarely, this error can cause all the lighting in your level to become black. If this happens, you will have to track down the degenerate face(s)."

The other errors I wouldn't worry about. I don't know enough about your mod to know if the missing textures are harmful or not, but I'll assume you've already investigated that. A few other things you might check:

- When you tried the lighting origin approach, did you try tying all of these things to the same origin that you knew was in a brightly lit place?
- If your 3D skybox contains geometry or models, did you make sure to Disable Shadows on all of it?
- What arguments are you sending into VRAD (i.e. "StaticPropPolys")?

[Statua]

When I did lighting orgin, I tried doing it on a select few trees but no result. I havent changed the properties of the 3D sky models so ill give that a go. As for VRAD, I mentioned earlier i used -staticproppolys and -textureshadows

[beach]

Did you find the degenerates faces ?

[Statua]

Update: I figured out a pattern in this. Any static prop that is in line of sight of the light_environment entity is lit by it. All others are only lit by the ambience. I'm going to try putting the entity in the 3D skybox and see what happens.

[Statua]

I compiled it with the light_environment in the skybox, it's confirmed that the lighting pattern of the 'brightness' keyvalue lights all static props that can 'see' the light_environment entity (by see i mean with visleafs, not geometry) I moved the light_environment entity from the main world to the 3D skybox. All the prop_static entities in the 3D skybox are now lit by the brightness keyvalue, but the prop_static entities in the rest of the world are only lit by the ambient keyvalue.



I'm going to look into the 22 degenerate faces...

[Statua]

No idea how but in my laziness, I wanted to change the lighting to HDR like my Ineu Valley 2 map so I just copied the sun from there. Fixed this problem.

Wtf source engine.... wtf....

[ErikKiller]

...so I just copied the sun from there...

One does not NOT paste-special in Source.

[Statua]

...so I just copied the sun from there...

One does not NOT paste-special in Source.

Wait what? It's my map.... You made me confused.

[Statua]

Ok just for the record, in case anyone gets this error again, here's what was causing it cause I just caused it again. If you add the keyvalue 'targetname' to your light_environment entity for daynight cycle use, it can cause this.