AMD or Intel?

[PeoplesHostile]

IIRC the FX-57processor is the fastest and bit faster for games. If I go with Intel chances are I will end up with some hardware anti-piracy crap and a slower processor.

Do all games that work on Intel processors work on AMD processors? - only thing I need to know right now.

[ScarT]

RoboHordes doesn't run on AMD processors but it is a crappy game, so I guess it wouldn't matter to you .

I would go with and Intel, I've always like Intel and never had one problem. But fact is I actually don't think you'll get a answer you can use, because there are so many fanboys out there .

[PeoplesHostile]

I don't care about the fanboys, Im a playstaion fanboy, I think the Xbox needs to *bleep * and die; now back on topic.

My new computer is near and I want the best in it, don't care much about the price as long as it is reasonable. Should I be waiting on the "8XXX series" from Nvidia or just go with the 7800GTX and an AMD64 FX-57 SD processor. I keep hearing that the "big bad ass brand name Corsair" is the best RAM but I use Crucial RAM and I haven't had any problems with it ever except my old 933MHz that was half-ass and a piece of crap to begin with. I also hear that Corsair doesn't fit on motherboards sometimes, is this true?

What are the best places to get parts at, Newegg? I won't be the one buying this so I want the best parts for the cheapest price. what are some good retail stores with prices that match online .

I may have many more questions later and as I said I don't care if your a one side fanboy I just want facts.

[Ale]

Go for a Asus A8N32 Sli mobo - AMD X2 4800+ - 2x 7800GTX - 2GB Crusial PC5400 RAM and a 600 Watts PSU from OCZ

You say money aint a problem so

EDIT: And intels HyperThreading is eating up CPU power

[PeoplesHostile]

Wtf is PC5400? and Im not a dualcore fan, IIRC games don't get much of a boost from dual core.

Btw is 2.2GHz op speed on an AMD processor the same thing as an Intel speed of 2.2GHz?

[Ale]

Wtf is PC5400? and Im not a dualcore fan, IIRC games don't get much of a boost from dual core.

Btw is 2.2GHz op speed on an AMD processor the same thing as an Intel speed of 2.2GHz?

PC5400 is the speed of your ram, standard now a days is 3200, so 5400 is fast for a DDR module

And for the AMD bit, and AMD that runs 2.2 ghz cant be compared because AMDs mhz cycles are much more effective fx. a 3200+ AMD64 outruns a intel 3.2 ghz with ease

[PeoplesHostile]

How will I know if this "5400" ram is compatable with evreything else?

[Ale]

They are

Just post the components you have planned to buy and ill comment them if they are ok

[PeoplesHostile]

As I said before, this won't be coming out of my pocket but my budget for a PC is $3,000.00 so cost isn't that much of a problem. Only $1,500 is available right now so I need to get a working system that is upgradeable to the full package.

I don't know how to overclock so I have to list more expensive hardware.

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WHAT IS THIS?
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a ... 6814143044

IIRC someone else here said that a 512MB card would out perform two SLI256MB cards. How will this measure up against SLI 7800GTX W/ 256MBs

[Vallian88]

That my friend would be an Nvidia monster. Looks like it needs 2+ inches of headroom . You got 3,000$ to work with?!?!? Holy crap, I've been building average computers off of 500 and less! I say you buy yourself a good motherboard & processor. Those are the core components of your computer. I would not go with the FX processor, just becuase single core processors are a thing of the past. I would say go with the X2 4800+ if you're looking for a really good processor, but be warned, that alone costs 900$. A good motherboard to run it will be aproximately 200+. then you'll be left with 400? You can then buy a really nice monitor. When you do get the other 1,500, buy a X1800, just becuase I favor ATI. Get a sweet looking case, sound system, mouse & keyboard, hard drive, CD drive, and whatever else you need.

[ƒray]

According do the benchmarks made from the latest models in the november issue of Maximun PC i believe..

AMD=For gaming.. won highest fps in doom 3... lol and far cry..

INTEL=Won every damn application like.. Photoshop 8 stressed out ETC..

basically amd is better for gaming and intel is better for applications, probably runs hammer better also.


Also.. Do not go with 512 MB of video card.. Its just completly useless right now.. Some of the 256's are better then the 512.. 512 is basically a beta test video card. It isnt nessecary for another good 2-4 years maybe?

Yeah, go with the SLI 7800GTX W/ 256MBs though.. fuck the 512's completely useless atm.. I believe they are also buggy as hell.

[zombie@computer]

try this new thing from IBM: this monster has eight cores, each of which is roughly twice as fast as the fastest AMD (and even faster for the fastest Intels). it has 144 megs of cache, which should be plenty for running Hl2, Doom3, Farcry and FEAR together in two instances each, using all full options

offcourse the downside is that it doesnt fit on your average mobo (the cpu alone is as big as an average mobo, see?)
so youll have to buy it from IBM directly (toghether with IBM servercase, IBM mobo, IBM cooler, IBM psu), and this CPU pulls a whooping 1000 Watts out of your powersocket. IF you want to build a gaming monster at all costs, pre-order this "to-be" fastest cpu of the world

[Frips]

that hand looks like a Giant's hand!!!

Personally, I've always liked AMDs, ever since I was old enough to purchase my own system, I have gone with AMDs, from the K6-2 up to the Athlon XP2400+ I have now (I know, thats behind the times now, but oh well) I like them because I believe that they are more capable processors, but I do not know a lot of statistics. I also picked them, because I prefer their motherboards and drivers to those of the Intels.

but thats my opinion!

[showNOmercy]

Intel is a tried and true technology, no one can deny that. When it comes to cost for performance AMD has always been the winner IMPO. If you are building a server and want the most stable system you can buy then I'd go with Intel. If you want horse power and gaming ability I'd go with the AMD.

Stay away from dual core procs as noone makes anything that really utilizes them properly. The technology is still way to new. The FX proc will be the best choice.

If you want over-clocking ability then get a good water cooling system.

[dragonfliet]

Oh goodness. If you don't know how to overclock, don't. It's that simple If you try and do it anyways, you're going to break your system somehow. You have a shitload of cash there, so just buy some good parts.

the 512MB gtx is extremely badass but it doesn't outperform 2 256MB cards in high res/ full effects situations (it does outperform at a lower level because of the time it takes to synch the two cards). Honestly, one 512MB is roughly twice the price of 2 256MB cards and it doesn't particularly boost your performance-I would reccomend avoiding it personally.

The FX 55 is going to be the best processor to buy right now. Sure the 57 is mildly faster, but for the extra few hundred dollars, don't worry. You've mentioned using crucial ram before, but it's shit. Trust us, buy some GOOD RAM and not only will your system be more stable, it will run faster as well. I really, highly reccomend you stay as far away form Overclocking as you possibly can unless you sit down and read ALOT of literature that not only explains HOW to do it, but you understand the fundamentals as well. Understand? That said, you'll do just fine with pc3200. for 2 512MB sticks, make sure you're paying at least $75 and go with Corsair or Kingston, etc: nice, big, reputible brands.

So: buy a fx 55, 1-2GB of GOOD RAM, a few hard drives, a nicely rated SLI motherboard, the GTX (buy one now and the other when you get more cash--oh, and buy the BFG one: overclocked out of the box and warrentied: it's dummy proof) and spend the rest of the cash on a nice 23" widescreen monitor.

~Jason