Goldeneye Source Mod Leader Dies

[slayera]

Some once told me.. suicide is a perment solution to a temporary problem.

They only way I could ever condone suicide is when someone is terminal, no hope of any recovery, living in a daily horrid pain, that no meds or treatment can stop. I once hurt my back a nearly lost the use of my right side. I never though about killing myself, but the constant daily pain for over 2 years, made me understand why someone doubly worse than I would. When your body hurts so bad that you pray for death just for relief, I think that wish should be granted, within the strictest of guidelines of course.

As for young healthy people, this is just stupid. Suicide is quick and easy, life is hard and long and things can and do change. We have the brains to change our situtation. If you can think about suicide then you can think about a way out too. You're not the only one who feels the way you do. If you can't then there are people you can call or talk too. People will listen, there are people out there to help, all you need to do is ask. If you or someone you know is thinking about this then talk to someone.

http://suicidehotlines.com/

US, Canada and international numbers.

The more all of us let others know there is help out there, the more help will be sought.

[BaRRaKID]

I think you'r the ones who live in the lollipops land. You'r the kind of person who need a specialist for every fucking thing, you'r the kind of person who are to afraid, or not capable, of handling their own problems , who need some1 else to take care of their problems. You should put your feet back on planet earth, and realise that no1 will solve your problems for you, that's probablly why so many people kill themsleves, they spend thousands of dollars on a psychiatrist only to realise that he didn't changed anything.
Still nothing of this has anything to do with this case, the guy wanted to see the "other side", congratulations you figured it out, now tell your mom, your dad, your bothers and sisters, and your friends how it's like up there, so that they can be as happy as you.

I hope your not talking about me if so then your not right, I don't need specialist for every thing, I'm not the kind of person who is afraid, or not capable, of handling my own problems, I'm not a person who needs some 1 else to take care of my problems.

you know why becuase I have been dealing with my problems for 20 years and I'm still alive and I plan on going on living and keep working on what makes me depressed, I see a happy life in my future and it is becuase I have worked hard at it.

It was more aimed to spartan and dragonfliet, nothing to do with you.. who are you btw? :O lo0l

[ColinDoody]

I love the tough guys that say "So what i was depressed I dealt with it I didnt poon out like he did I have my problems and I just deal with them Im tough hes a fool"

Because you obviously dont know what he was feeling. What ever was going on in his head made him commit suicide. If you felt what made him commit suicide, you too would commit suicide. The proof is in that he did it.

Hypothetically lets say a girl dumped him. You could very well say "So what Ive had a girl dump me and ive been depressed and I got over it" Thats not the question . The "girl dumping him" lead to whatever he felt. And you clearly did not feel it. I promise. Whatever went on in his head caused him to kill himself, and unless you have also killed yourself or have actually tried, you have not felt it. And dont say thinking about it counts , because if you had , you would understand exactly why he did what he did.

[Alminie]

I think you'r the ones who live in the lollipops land. You'r the kind of person who need a specialist for every fucking thing, you'r the kind of person who are to afraid, or not capable, of handling their own problems , who need some1 else to take care of their problems. You should put your feet back on planet earth, and realise that no1 will solve your problems for you, that's probablly why so many people kill themsleves, they spend thousands of dollars on a psychiatrist only to realise that he didn't changed anything.
Still nothing of this has anything to do with this case, the guy wanted to see the "other side", congratulations you figured it out, now tell your mom, your dad, your bothers and sisters, and your friends how it's like up there, so that they can be as happy as you.

I hope your not talking about me if so then your not right, I don't need specialist for every thing, I'm not the kind of person who is afraid, or not capable, of handling my own problems, I'm not a person who needs some 1 else to take care of my problems.

you know why becuase I have been dealing with my problems for 20 years and I'm still alive and I plan on going on living and keep working on what makes me depressed, I see a happy life in my future and it is becuase I have worked hard at it.

It was more aimed to spartan and dragonfliet, nothing to do with you.. who are you btw? :O lo0l

?? strange question who am I
why do you want to know.??

Because you obviously dont know what he was feeling. What ever was going on in his head made him commit suicide. If you felt what made him commit suicide, you too would commit suicide. The proof is in that he did it.

that is true to a point, thoe he had at least 2 choices
we all know the one he toke, but do you know the other choice he had?
well I know the choices my self to end my life or to keep going and try to make the best of things, if I choose I could end my life I have more then enough depression to help me to that end but I choice to work through it, if I feel so bad I can't get out of bed doe to pain I have doe the surgery I have had, then I get more depressed, but if I just wait a short time get a good nights sleep I can feel better the next day. I made a choice a long time ago that is to keep going no matter my pain I can at least feel joy in my life and that makes life worth living, it also helps to have firends.

[Rustvaar]

I love the tough guys that say "So what i was depressed I dealt with it I didnt poon out like he did I have my problems and I just deal with them Im tough hes a fool"

Because you obviously dont know what he was feeling. What ever was going on in his head made him commit suicide. If you felt what made him commit suicide, you too would commit suicide. The proof is in that he did it.

Hypothetically lets say a girl dumped him. You could very well say "So what Ive had a girl dump me and ive been depressed and I got over it" Thats not the question . The "girl dumping him" lead to whatever he felt. And you clearly did not feel it. I promise. Whatever went on in his head caused him to kill himself, and unless you have also killed yourself or have actually tried, you have not felt it. And dont say thinking about it counts , because if you had , you would understand exactly why he did what he did.

The voice of truth. Praise.

[Castor]

But isn't that just exactly what makes humans different? He would kill himself because he got dumped by a girl, but the other person didn't. That does tell us at least something about the state of mind.

One could argue that the one who got over it has a stronger mind, but you don't know about other influences.

A friend of mine tried to kill himself by jumping in front of a running train. He failed. He got into hospital, they put his hand back on. He recovered (although completly covered with scars). His main reason was: a girl dumped him. He told me: when he was sitting in the bushes, waiting for the train to come, his mind was blurred. Like he didn't have control over his body, as if he was taken over by somebody else.

He too feels now like it's just the most easy way out to kill yourself. He got treatment, mental. It helped. He has been dumped twice now by a girl, but he didn't try to kill himself.

I don't think everybody can be helped to prevent suicide, but people could at least try. It's better to try to solve it differently than immediatly kill yourself. Suicide is always the last option you have.

[Dead-Inside]

So where's your proof that spirituality is just made up?

Hmm, how about all the hoax-ing? Should be enough.

[Spartan]

So far I haven't heard anybody really condone suicide. It's just constant bickering back and forth with no real lines being drawn. I don't think anybody here truly believes suicide is the right option. So I don't know what everyone is getting so upset over.

[Athlete{UK}]

So where's your proof that spirituality is just made up?

Hmm, how about all the hoax-ing? Should be enough.

That's bollocks mate and you know it is. I've not seen any conclusive proof to show spirituality doesn't excist. Nor have i seen any conclusive proof to show it does fact of the matter is. No one has.

[InternalRage]

One could argue that the one who got over it has a stronger mind.

Yeh, either that, or no feelings.

But if they had no feelings, why cut themselves?

[YokaI]

This arguement we are having is kinda stupid. I mean, we don't even know the guy. How are we supposed to tell if he should or should not have commited suicide.

We know that:
1) he had the internetz
2) He had hl2
3) he made goldeneye source.

But we don't really know about his personal life, and neither does the GE:S dev team. Lets give it a rest and let the man rest in peace.

[Castor]

This arguement we are having is kinda stupid. I mean, we don't even know the guy. How are we supposed to tell if he should or should not have commited suicide.

We know that:
1) he had the internetz
2) He had hl2
3) he made goldeneye source.

But we don't really know about his personal life, and neither does the GE:S dev team. Lets give it a rest and let the man rest in peace.

That's about the most intelligent post in the thread.

[Alminie]

This arguement we are having is kinda stupid. I mean, we don't even know the guy. How are we supposed to tell if he should or should not have commited suicide.

We know that:
1) he had the internetz
2) He had hl2
3) he made goldeneye source.

But we don't really know about his personal life, and neither does the GE:S dev team. Lets give it a rest and let the man rest in peace.

yes that is true, but the side topic is Depression = killing your self?

that subject you don't need to know the guy but just will depression lead to killing your self.


but on the topic I feel bad for anyone that gets to a breaking point that leads to their death.

[InternalRage]

He obviously killed himself through some sort of depression, not 'cause maps wern't being made for GE:S.

[mbs357]

I find it hard to feel sympathy...at least for him.

Selfish act 1. Killed himself.
Selfish act 2. Put his family through his suicide.

They didn't lose a gift, he killed himself. HIMSELF.