Goldeneye Source Mod Leader Dies

[DarkGore]

I find it sad that people are looking down on this man for doing what he did, I do not condone suicide at all, though I've attempted it, and also had others go through with it in my lifetime.

To all of you people who are saying that for him to commit suicide is a "cowards way out" or that he "didn't try hard enough to get over it" you obviously are very ignorant to the facts of depression and what else was going on in his life. I do not know what his problems were, but then again, none of you do either.

Calling some one a coward for having a depression problem is like making fun of some one for being born with a cleft lip (I personally have that) you don't choose to have depression, it's a chemical imbalance in the brain. They give you meds to make it better, but sometimes they don't work, sometimes they make the problem worse, and sometimes they just make you a complete idiot.

I find it very sad that this man took his own life, I did not know him personally, however from the reactions from the Goldeneye source team, and others that knew him, he seemed like a very likeable and good hearted guy.

My condolences go out to his family and friends, another great person has been lost.

[zombie@computer]

you don't choose to have depression, it's a chemical imbalance in the brain.

I think few people here realise theres a big difference between a depression and a 'i dont want to today' kindof dip.[/quote]

[BaRRaKID]

If he didn't kill himself where would he be? If he faced his problems and overcame them, where would he end up? It's not like by surviving another 50 or 60 years he'll get some kind of prize, in the end we're all going to die - Perhaps he'd already had enough of this planet and its infuriating inhabitants.

Well i guess now he will never know! There was this story here where i live about 2 years ago, of a guy who killed himself, because every night he went out he got mugged by the same group, every single fucking day. So he killed himself, and a week later the guys where arrested for stealing a guns shop. If he had wayted another week everything would go back to normal. You see this is the kind of things that suiciders don't think of, if he had asked those same questions you made before killing himself, maybe he wouln't do it, if he had tought that he would probablly get a decent job, or a new girlfriend, or whatever was wrong with him, he could have a decent future, on the other end everything could go get worst, but that's what life is all about.

[zombie@computer]

You see this is the kind of things that suiciders don't think of

You really think so? You really think people who commit suicicde will think: ah, i got bruised yesterday, lets kill myself? You really think they wont be looking for alternatives? They dont think about the concequences? Let me tell you depressions, and depression like situations distort the way you look to your world, every small bump appears to be a mountain. These ppl think every way out, finding each blocked by mount everest. It takes professional help to talk these people out of their misery, and you think these ppl can save themselves by "asking themselves these questions"? That would be a nice world to live in, but thats not reality

Oh, and

a week later the guys where arrested for stealing a guns shop.

They stole an entire shop? wow

[Rustvaar]

You see this is the kind of things that suiciders don't think of

You really think so? You really think people who commit suicicde will think: ah, i got bruised yesterday, lets kill myself? You really think they wont be looking for alternatives? They dont think about the concequences? Let me tell you depressions, and depression like situations distort the way you look to your world, every small bump appears to be a mountain. These ppl think every way out, finding each blocked by mount everest. It takes professional help to talk these people out of their misery, and you think these ppl can save themselves by "asking themselves these questions"? That would be a nice world to live in, but thats not reality

QFE

[dragonfliet]

You see this is the kind of things that suiciders don't think of

You really think so? You really think people who commit suicicde will think: ah, i got bruised yesterday, lets kill myself? You really think they wont be looking for alternatives? They dont think about the concequences? Let me tell you depressions, and depression like situations distort the way you look to your world, every small bump appears to be a mountain. These ppl think every way out, finding each blocked by mount everest. It takes professional help to talk these people out of their misery, and you think these ppl can save themselves by "asking themselves these questions"? That would be a nice world to live in, but thats not reality

Oh, and

a week later the guys where arrested for stealing a guns shop.

They stole an entire shop? wow

Yeah, and in this world, I think there should be lollipops too. That would be great. Oh, and rainbows....

I think that while some poeple have a tendancy to dismiss suicide as foolish, and it's not, there is sometimes an equally foolish tendancy to justify it. And while I realize that you people aren't justifying it per-se, it's very important nonetheless to emphasize that suicide is a stupid idea. It doesn't mean that people who try it are stupid, but it's a dumb idea nonetheless. We shouldn't look down our noses at these people, but we shouldn't give them a high five either. I know no one is "supporting" it, but I just figured that needed to be said.

~Jason

[Woe Kitten]

Calling it a stupid/dumb idea will definately do more harm than good. The only useful thing we can do is help people to understand that there is always a solution to our problems that doesn't rely on a change of circumstances. The only solution to suicidal desires is a change of attitude. But if you call people stupid for feeling that way then it will only drive them into a defensive stance and make you look like an ignorant a-hole.

[YokaI]

Both sides of this argument are presenting the wrong answers. I think very few of you really know what it's like to be in a real suicidal situation. I do not condone suicide. I wish more people would read my posts in this thread.

huh? I hear nothing but the wind.

But honestly, I think that is the right thing to say. Though I dont approve of suicide myself just because I think there is alot to live for but we cant do anything for this man now. We just have to hope for the best.

[dragonfliet]

Calling it a stupid/dumb idea will definately do more harm than good. The only useful thing we can do is help people to understand that there is always a solution to our problems that doesn't rely on a change of circumstances. The only solution to suicidal desires is a change of attitude. But if you call people stupid for feeling that way then it will only drive them into a defensive stance and make you look like an ignorant a-hole.

did you read my post at all?

And while I realize that you people aren't justifying it per-se, it's very important nonetheless to emphasize that suicide is a stupid idea. It doesn't mean that people who try it are stupid, but it's a dumb idea nonetheless.

[Woe Kitten]

Yeah I read what you said... and I replied:

Calling it a stupid/dumb idea will definately do more harm than good.

[Alminie]

you don't choose to have depression, it's a chemical imbalance in the brain.

I know alot about depression, I have lived with it for about 20 years, and it is not a chemical imbalance for me, there have been alot of really bad things that have happened in my life, since about age 8-18 I has beat on by other kids, made fun of in the most horrible ways, my parents not helping me with anything that I needed, a few deaths in the family, moving about 16 times in my life not having any friends doe to moving so much, more death in family, losing job after job doe to well 1 moving so much, 2 no good reason other then had to lay me off.
there is more but those things I hate to talk about.

but yes there are ppl that have chemical imbalance that leads to depression.


but in the end to kill ones self is not a good way to do anything it doesn't stop the pain it stops everything, you feel not joy or pain in doing so,
so there is no point to kill my self since I rather feel joy then nothing at all.

and there is another way to help a person with depression it is with positive motivation, and encouragement weekly if not daily, that can help alot.

and drugs mostly only help depression that is chemical, but can help other forms of depression so you can work out the issues that make a person depressed.

[Sorrow]

so there is no point to kill my self since I rather feel joy then nothing at all.

The smartest thing I've heard today

life sucks 80 % over the 20 % of happiness I get though... but that makes it all the more worth it I guess

[BaRRaKID]

I think you'r the ones who live in the lollipops land. You'r the kind of person who need a specialist for every fucking thing, you'r the kind of person who are to afraid, or not capable, of handling their own problems , who need some1 else to take care of their problems. You should put your feet back on planet earth, and realise that no1 will solve your problems for you, that's probablly why so many people kill themsleves, they spend thousands of dollars on a psychiatrist only to realise that he didn't changed anything.
Still nothing of this has anything to do with this case, the guy wanted to see the "other side", congratulations you figured it out, now tell your mom, your dad, your bothers and sisters, and your friends how it's like up there, so that they can be as happy as you.

[Athlete{UK}]

"life sucks life is horrible blah blah blah" seriously though i'm willing to bet the vast majority of people on this forum don't even know what it's like to have a truly bad and "sucky" life (including myself.)

I'm Bi-polar. Now i'm not massivly bad. I mean i have never been debilitated by it. Infact i am what is jokingly refered to as a case of Bi-polar lite but somedays and even up to months for no apprent reason i just feel terrible and depressed about everything. It feels horrible. I've even thought about suicide in one particularly bad patch but I think most people have had the passing though (mine was just that, a passing thought) I've also had some seriously bad shit happen in my family (which i'd rather not talk about) But i really don't think i can even get close to feeling as bad as the people who really do have it rough. People stuck in warzones. Kids who have seen their family die of stavation just to feed them. Someone born with a seriously dibilitating condition. Now I doubt you would hear any of them complaining how sucky life is all the time.

So stop with the "oh life completely sucks and then you die" shit and go look out of the window and see how good your life actually is.

[Alminie]

I think you'r the ones who live in the lollipops land. You'r the kind of person who need a specialist for every fucking thing, you'r the kind of person who are to afraid, or not capable, of handling their own problems , who need some1 else to take care of their problems. You should put your feet back on planet earth, and realise that no1 will solve your problems for you, that's probablly why so many people kill themsleves, they spend thousands of dollars on a psychiatrist only to realise that he didn't changed anything.
Still nothing of this has anything to do with this case, the guy wanted to see the "other side", congratulations you figured it out, now tell your mom, your dad, your bothers and sisters, and your friends how it's like up there, so that they can be as happy as you.

I hope your not talking about me if so then your not right, I don't need specialist for every thing, I'm not the kind of person who is afraid, or not capable, of handling my own problems, I'm not a person who needs some 1 else to take care of my problems.

you know why becuase I have been dealing with my problems for 20 years and I'm still alive and I plan on going on living and keep working on what makes me depressed, I see a happy life in my future and it is becuase I have worked hard at it.