Psychiatry vs Pharmaceutical

[Spartan]

IMO a mix of both medications and therapy from a pyschiatrist will always show the best results when dealing with people who are suffering from a pyschological disorder. It can be anything from depression to OCD.

[Sorrow]

If you already think to know the answer then why make a poll?
one cannot claim that the first one works better than the other or vice versa because with both there must have been succesful treatments


edit >> imo psychiatry is better, because the stuff 'they' put in medicine these days ...

and don't forget that alot of money is being made in the pharmaceutical industry... bet ya that's corrupt and dirty too

but then again, one can't say that no medication really works.

edit 2 >> shock treatments and that kind of shit is way out of line though,
and read something about MK ULTRA if you didn't already know, that's also quite disturbing (kinda off topic though)

[Spartan]

If you already think to know the answer then why make a poll?

I never said I know the answer. I just wanted people's opinions. I was curious what other people thought.

[ishbog]

If you already think to know the answer then why make a poll?

I never said I know the answer. I just wanted people's opinions. I was curious what other people thought.

exaaaactly.

I think it's probably best to avoid medication.

[zombie@computer]

medication and psychiatry each give some cure alone (99% of the cases), but combined their curing force is much bigger. Only the lightest cases should consist only of one of the two, most require both.

I fail to see whats to discuss about, most people on this forum are too unknowing (sorry if i offend anyone by that) about the subject to make a true discussion about a subject that has already been discussed by top psychiatrists and psychologists and came to the conclusion i wrote above.

and offcourse most people will say to avoid medecine. Thats just like asking a child whether nuclear energy should be used to power us, most childs will whine we should use more wind energy because nuclear power is eevil

[InternalRage]

Depending on what you prefer, do that for the 99% of the cure, then the other for 1%.

I voted physciatrist.

So in my case it would be 99% cured by visitng a physciatrist, then the last part fixed by medication. Less dangerous if you gotta' use less.

[Sorrow]

I think the thread might be misnamed in that case...Z@C it seems to be more about 'what do you think'll help the most' or what do you think is best
In that case people can give opinions


right?


-Sorrow

[zombie@computer]

I think the thread might be misnamed in that case...Z@C it seems to be more about 'what do you think'll help the most' or what do you think is best
In that case people can give opinions


right?


-Sorrow

In that case i have to agree with the top psychiatrists and psychologists i mentioned before

[Hyp-R]

I'm not one for medication,
I don't take pills,
At all.

[Sorrow]

I do
but that's mostly stuff against headaches and I think it works, but then again maybe if I think it'll work it'll work because sometimes stuff works like that.

Ibroprufen it's called I believe... dunno if it's bad for you though

[theCommie]

I'm the same as Hyp-R. Althought I don't know if he's being saracastic or not. In any case, most medication is for suppressing symptoms, which is how the body tells you it's sick, therefore, it's not good. Especially when it's messing around with your brain. I've had depression before, I got over it without any chemicals inside me.

And is this some sort of Scientology debate?

(Just a note, you don't see animals taking any medication, and they don't have heart attacks, cancer, or anything else prevalent in the Americas. Kinda makes you wonder. I might have went a little off-topic there too.)

EDIT: As for what Sorrow said, how do you think the pharmaceutical industry is going to keep its cash influx steady? Do you think they'd want you to become better and stop using their drugs? Of course not, where's the money in that? What's the sad part is that all those charities/foundations for "curing" terminal diseases is only a way to get more. Not a single disease has been cured ever since this entire fiasco has started. No drug can "cure" you, only your body can. Drugs don't really do anything but put foreign substances in your body, and that's a no-no. Many of you know, that drug commercials probably claim to "cure" some symptom, then induce the lengthy and possibly worse list of so-called side-effects. But this is an entirely another debate, but I felt it should be said.

[zombie@computer]

I'm the same as Hyp-R. Althought I don't know if he's being saracastic or not. In any case, most medication is for suppressing symptoms, which is how the body tells you it's sick, therefore, it's not good. Especially when it's messing around with your brain. I've had depression before, I got over it without any chemicals inside me.

So you are saying its bad to take pain medication when you are terminally ill? Its bad to take acetylic acid after a heart attack? its bad to take haloperidol when you get schizophrenia? You think the entire medical world is based around making money, and you know better than millions of people who work their arse off to rescue people who are stupid enough to take overdoses of drugs, drink and drive, smoke, or live unhealthy otherwise, not even talking about the people who dont do this and still get an illness?

(Just a note, you don't see animals taking any medication, and they don't have heart attacks, cancer, or anything else prevalent in the Americas. Kinda makes you wonder. I might have went a little off-topic there too.)

You really think animals dont get cancer, heart attacks or eg dementia? You appeared smarter

EDIT: As for what Sorrow said, how do you think the pharmaceutical industry is going to keep its cash influx steady? Do you think they'd want you to become better and stop using their drugs? Of course not, where's the money in that? What's the sad part is that all those charities/foundations for "curing" terminal diseases is only a way to get more. Not a single disease has been cured ever since this entire fiasco has started. No drug can "cure" you, only your body can. Drugs don't really do anything but put foreign substances in your body, and that's a no-no. Many of you know, that drug commercials probably claim to "cure" some symptom, then induce the lengthy and possibly worse list of so-called side-effects. But this is an entirely another debate, but I felt it should be said.

Pharmaceutical companies dont prescribe medecine, doctors do. If you really think medecins dont cure people because the companies who make them want ppl to keep buy their products, you are indeed a very paranoid person. Can i interest you in some psychological aid? You wouldnt happen to hear voices too, do you?

[Sorrow]

fuck whatever I said

[Zyggy]

Personally I think, without being very knowledgeable on this subject, that using medication to control something like ADD in children is kind of wrong. If they're on medication, are they actually themselves? Or are their true personalities being supressed by drugs? Just because we want people to conform to a socially acceptable model i don't think we should pump them full of medication.

But it's much easier to give them drugs than try to accomidate them, so i expect that's what will keep happening.

[Spartan]

Pharmaceutical companies dont prescribe medecine, doctors do. If you really think medecins dont cure people because the companies who make them want ppl to keep buy their products, you are indeed a very paranoid person. Can i interest you in some psychological aid? You wouldnt happen to hear voices too, do you?

I think you're blinded to some very obvious things in life Z@C, you tell people they're dumb so it kinda makes you look better, and you refuse to believe in all the bad stuff that's all around you.

That makes no sense at all. Your contradicting a fact.