Global Warming

[Sorrow]

"Global warming has been invented by hippies!"

ORLY!
Capitalist dogs.
dieeeeee!!!

[Khaeotixs]

Okay, i've only read the first post, but i watched this program on BBC (and you know what BBC's like, you england-ers), and its saying that its just a natural trend, and according to the evidence provided (which was substantial), the earth warming is part of a trend following 'weather patterns' on the sun's surface (for want of a better word), and that we needn't worry about our emissions, it's just the anti-car brigade shouting for the fun of it...

And so ends my second foray into the serious discussion forum.

[Sorrow]

Hurr I don't believe it
What we're doing can't possibly be good to this world, the eco system is able to handle 10 billion blabla kubic things of Co2 whilst we're pumping over 30 billion kubic things into the air (yeah I don't know the exact numbers but it was something with 10 and 30 something (alot) )

[Khaeotixs]

Errrr, we're only pumping a little over 1% of CO2 into the atmosphere, so it can't really have an effect, unless it reacts with another element to completely go BOOM! yeah, like thats ever going to happen.

[Dionysos]

Either way, whether it causes global warming or not shouldnt be an issue. Its still poluting, and thats not good for the environment in general (forests dying etc).
Either way, we should get away from fossile fuels.

[Sorrow]

Either way, we should get away from fossile fuels.

yeah that'd be smart...
problem is, investment in cleaner fuel takes up alot of money, money most fracks don't want to invest even if it's for their (grand)children('s) sake.

[Psy]

CO2 levels rise with temperature due to the sea heating up and releasing more CO2.

When the temperature cools down more CO2 is absorbed by the sea.

[Dionysos]

Either way, we should get away from fossile fuels.

yeah that'd be smart...
problem is, investment in cleaner fuel takes up alot of money, money most fracks don't want to invest even if it's for their (grand)children('s) sake.

Yes. What I think is kind of stupid is all the money invested in reducing tiny percentages (relatively ) of co2 emissions for cars, when that money could be invested in new technologies.

[Sorrow]

Yeah pump alot more money into cold fusion or whatever.
Perhaps if we slaughter the state of texas and put em in bio reactors we'll have power for the... oh.

Hmmm I know people are working on new technologies but man, it must be hard to come up with that stuff, I mean it's new, so requires out of ze box thinking etc.
must be tough.

[Khaeotixs]

hell, the hydrogen fuel cell car is a good idea, the only waste it produces is water, and i've come up with an idea that means you only ever need a certain amount of hydrogen. Fuel companies won't invest in that sort of technology, as they can't make money out of it. I know i'm about to sound anti-capitalist and conspiracy theorist, but massive oil companies will never invest in alternative technologies as they cannot make money. They'll probably end up charging money for all sorts of hybrid technologies which take the strain off oil, but hydrogen fuel is much more effecient, so of course they aren't going to use it.

Also, fossil fuels might run out and we might turn to hydrogen etc, but we'll run out of raw materials if we don't recycle.

[Dionysos]

hell, the hydrogen fuel cell car is a good idea, the only waste it produces is water, and i've come up with an idea that means you only ever need a certain amount of hydrogen. Fuel companies won't invest in that sort of technology, as they can't make money out of it. I know i'm about to sound anti-capitalist and conspiracy theorist, but massive oil companies will never invest in alternative technologies as they cannot make money. They'll probably end up charging money for all sorts of hybrid technologies which take the strain off oil, but hydrogen fuel is much more effecient, so of course they aren't going to use it.

Also, fossil fuels might run out and we might turn to hydrogen etc, but we'll run out of raw materials if we don't recycle.

Actually, the hydrogen car is old. They already "invented" it in the 60-70. My guess is that the oil companies actively suppress that technology. I also think that once the oil actually stops flowing they will have it ready and try to have a monopoly on it again.

The biggest problem with hydrogen seems to be the energy/hydrogen output ration, as you need a lot of energy to make hydrogen with todays technologies. There is experimentation with certain algae tho that produce hydrogen in exchange for co2/light. I think something like that will definitely be the way to go; using plants/algae. In the article I read they had actually already come halfway with the energy/output ration, if I recall correctly.

My dream is everyone having their own algae-tank in the backyard, producing their own hydrogen for their car. Of course, that would never happen as it would totally abolish gas stations/leave the big oil comapanies without profit.

[zombie@computer]

hell, the hydrogen fuel cell car is a good idea, the only waste it produces is water, and i've come up with an idea that means you only ever need a certain amount of hydrogen. Fuel companies won't invest in that sort of technology, as they can't make money out of it. I know i'm about to sound anti-capitalist and conspiracy theorist, but massive oil companies will never invest in alternative technologies as they cannot make money. They'll probably end up charging money for all sorts of hybrid technologies which take the strain off oil, but hydrogen fuel is much more effecient, so of course they aren't going to use it.

Also, fossil fuels might run out and we might turn to hydrogen etc, but we'll run out of raw materials if we don't recycle.

Actually, the hydrogen car is old. They already "invented" it in the 60-70. My guess is that the oil companies actively suppress that technology. I also think that once the oil actually stops flowing they will have it ready and try to have a monopoly on it again.

The biggest problem with hydrogen seems to be the energy/hydrogen output ration, as you need a lot of energy to make hydrogen with todays technologies. There is experimentation with certain algae tho that produce hydrogen in exchange for co2/light. I think something like that will definitely be the way to go; using plants/algae. In the article I read they had actually already come halfway with the energy/output ration, if I recall correctly.

My dream is everyone having their own algae-tank in the backyard, producing their own hydrogen for their car. Of course, that would never happen as it would totally abolish gas stations/leave the big oil comapanies without profit.

so you are basically betting on an organic solar panel? Im sure the efficiency of algae or whatever is higher than that of the average solar panel, but i cant believe you dont need an ocean sized tank to power even the smallest of cars

[~}A{~TF2]

So I am to assume that NO ONE has clicked on the link that I posted a couple of weeks ago going directly to a new documentary on Global Warming?

[zombie@computer]

So I am to assume that NO ONE has clicked on the link that I posted a couple of weeks ago going directly to a new documentary on Global Warming?

i ignore your posts, sorry

j/k

[Meotwister]

we should get rid of Dihydrogen Monoxide too.. that's the biggest greenhouse gas... so it can't be good for us.