Globalization

[Persol]

It's called different cultures and different cultures reside within one or several countries (Some countries having several coinciding). If you make a world state the government would not be able to see to everyone's needs.

There is a HUGE difference between globalization and a one world government. Globalization is basically the choice and active exchange of items/ideas/people. Now, people may choose to adopt parts of other cultures... but this is their choice.

Local government is the way to go, regardless of it you are talking about state, country, EU, or world.

It would also quite likely become a police state which imo isn't going to happen where I live.

There are two places most likely to become police states:
1) America
2) The EU (of which your country is a member)

We don't do shit "American Style".

Racist.

[Dead-Inside]

We don't do shit "American Style".

Racist.

Racist?...

Edit: You also forgot something, we haven't signed a lifetime deal with the EU. What does that mean? It means if they try to force something on us, like becoming a police state, we will pull out.

Apparently you think the EU is some kind of superpower. Unlike the US, all the countries don't have to find themselves in whatever the EU says.

[Persol]

Apparently you think the EU is some kind of superpower.
...
It means if they try to force something on us, like becoming a police state, we will pull out.

That setup is the same one the US was in 150 years ago.

The Federal government won.

[Dionysos]

Apparently you think the EU is some kind of superpower.
...
It means if they try to force something on us, like becoming a police state, we will pull out.

That setup is the same one the US was in 150 years ago.

The Federal government won.

Although it *might* come to that in europe, I doubt it.
The different american states of that time cant really be compared that well to the european contries of today.

[Persol]

They are different, agreed. The EU states have been 'used to' ruling themselves for much longer than the US states were.

However, the driving factor in the two situations is the same. Group A (federal/EU) thinks wants more power and uses something that Group B (states) does wrong (slavery/prostitution/not bathing) as an excuse for a power grab.

It's yet to be seen if the convoluded mess that is the EU makes this power grab easier or harder.

[zombie@computer]

They are different, agreed. The EU states have been 'used to' ruling themselves for much longer than the US states were.

not only that. Before the US were U, they consisted of two populations: french and english (and to a smaller extent other populations). Uniting two peoples is easier than uniting the enlish (who hate the french), the germans (who are hated by everybody), the french (...), the italians, the spaniard, the greek, the portugeese, the dutch, the belgians, the norse, finns and sweeds, not to mention eastern europe. Because of their longer history there are many more differences in culture and history. It's about as hard as trying to merge china and USA

[Mangopork]

Dissolving national and international borders always has and always will lead to tyranny.

You people talk about globalization as if it's never happened before.

Maybe you've heard of Alexander the Great, The Persians, Rome....

Hardly shining examples of human kindness, individuality and freedom (you know, all of those REALLY GOOD things we must have in order to enjoy ourselves).

Globalization in our era involves the same thing: people.... who can easily be corrupted by too much power.

Just because we have enhanced technology, business suits, and a new swath of paint does not change any of the fundamental precepts of human behavior. In fact, it doesn't change anything.


Stong national and cultural boundaries are necessary for individuality, freedom, and a sense of identity; ALL CRUCIAL FACTORS TO MAINTAINING BASIC HUMANITY.

Keep countries individualized

[KiGrind]

But.... those who don't want to go to war are, gay.

"I WAS THE FIRST TO WANT TO GO TO WAR!"

[Dead-Inside]

But.... those who don't want to go to war are, gay.

"I WAS THE FIRST TO WANT TO GO TO WAR!"

Let's all hold you to this.

[dragonfliet]

Dissolving national and international borders always has and always will lead to tyranny.

You people talk about globalization as if it's never happened before.

Maybe you've heard of Alexander the Great, The Persians, Rome....

Hardly shining examples of human kindness, individuality and freedom (you know, all of those REALLY GOOD things we must have in order to enjoy ourselves).

Globalization in our era involves the same thing: people.... who can easily be corrupted by too much power.

Just because we have enhanced technology, business suits, and a new swath of paint does not change any of the fundamental precepts of human behavior. In fact, it doesn't change anything.


Stong national and cultural boundaries are necessary for individuality, freedom, and a sense of identity; ALL CRUCIAL FACTORS TO MAINTAINING BASIC HUMANITY.

Keep countries individualized

You seem to believe that all these other countries were nice, non-oppressive democracies before they were conquered. The fact of the matter is that Rome stabilized the regions it took over, the Chinese unification almost completely erased the vicious fighting that was constantly going on, etc., etc.

You seem to somehow thing that identifying under a similar country/nation/world erases culture, but you are far from the truth. Look at the U.S. for example. You have an insane number of extremely strong cultures from the Louisiana Bayou to New York to Nebraska. There are Hispanic/asian/etc. communities as well as individuals that live in other communities that still hold tightly upon their culture. All of these separate cultures have thrived under a single government.

That being said, globablization will never happen unless we meet an aggressive alien culture as humanity is naturally combative and loathe to give up fighting for silly causes.

~Jason

[Sorrow]

hmmm brought back from the dead huh?

[Persol]

You have an insane number of extremely strong cultures from the Louisiana Bayou to New York to Nebraska.

India is another good example. There are more religions and languages there than I care to count, which were often hostile to each other. Today they are one nation, with most people having more freedom than before. The caste system has been mostly aboloshed... and they now have something similar to affirmative action.

[Mangopork]

Dissolving national and international borders always has and always will lead to tyranny.

You people talk about globalization as if it's never happened before.

Maybe you've heard of Alexander the Great, The Persians, Rome....

Hardly shining examples of human kindness, individuality and freedom (you know, all of those REALLY GOOD things we must have in order to enjoy ourselves).

Globalization in our era involves the same thing: people.... who can easily be corrupted by too much power.

Just because we have enhanced technology, business suits, and a new swath of paint does not change any of the fundamental precepts of human behavior. In fact, it doesn't change anything.


Stong national and cultural boundaries are necessary for individuality, freedom, and a sense of identity; ALL CRUCIAL FACTORS TO MAINTAINING BASIC HUMANITY.

Keep countries individualized

You seem to believe that all these other countries were nice, non-oppressive democracies before they were conquered. The fact of the matter is that Rome stabilized the regions it took over, the Chinese unification almost completely erased the vicious fighting that was constantly going on, etc., etc.

You seem to somehow thing that identifying under a similar country/nation/world erases culture, but you are far from the truth. Look at the U.S. for example. You have an insane number of extremely strong cultures from the Louisiana Bayou to New York to Nebraska. There are Hispanic/asian/etc. communities as well as individuals that live in other communities that still hold tightly upon their culture. All of these separate cultures have thrived under a single government.

That being said, globablization will never happen unless we meet an aggressive alien culture as humanity is naturally combative and loathe to give up fighting for silly causes.

~Jason

Well, what I'm referring to is keep country borders as they are right now.

The unification efforts you talk about stopped after a certain point (save for rome).

[Ripper_hugme]

Wow almost a year more bump.

[Khaeotixs]

You have no idea how our system works. It's not money based on nothing, it's money based on an idea.

Basically the same thing, tbh. No-one with any business sense backs an idea, unless its a totally revolutionary idea. Money on an idea can't pay bills. It's nothing, worthless and pointless. the paper its printed on is worth more.