What would the world be like if Hitler won?

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Postby superdoughboy4 on Mon Dec 18, 2006 5:48 pm

Schizophrenia is physical as well as mental, but being gang banged in jail wouldn't get you Schizophrenic.
I just studied it and did an essay on it for a big ass project.
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Postby zombie@computer on Mon Dec 18, 2006 6:47 pm

the cause of schizophrenia is typically genetic (or drug-induced). It can be triggered by stress, so one could get schizophrenic in jail because of the stress, but then that person already had it in a 'silent mode'
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Postby DrGlass on Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:08 am

What would it be like if your great great great great great great great great great great grandfather died at age 6?

no one knows, specuation is absolutly impossible. You can't even perdict whats going to happen 2 years into the future, much less 70+ years in the future from the past...

*note I didn't read any of this thread
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Postby zombie@computer on Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:05 am

DrGlass wrote:What would it be like if your great great great great great great great great great great grandfather died at age 6?

no one knows, specuation is absolutly impossible. You can't even perdict whats going to happen 2 years into the future, much less 70+ years in the future from the past...

*note I didn't read any of this thread
you wouldnt exist because that 6 year old reat great great great great great great great great great grandfather wouldn't be able to make kids
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Postby Shr3d on Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:49 am

zombie@computer wrote:
DrGlass wrote:What would it be like if your great great great great great great great great great great grandfather died at age 6?

no one knows, specuation is absolutly impossible. You can't even perdict whats going to happen 2 years into the future, much less 70+ years in the future from the past...

*note I didn't read any of this thread
you wouldnt exist because that 6 year old reat great great great great great great great great great grandfather wouldn't be able to make kids


Yes exactly. Unless he hit puberty at the age of 6 somehow. That's fucked up.
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Postby Mr. Happy on Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:24 pm

Architecture

In Germany and surrounding/near countries such as Austria, Switzerland, Belgium, etc. there would be magnificant building and monuments of stone. The cities would be beautiful. Hitler did this in Germany to increase popularity for his government by showing what a Nazi state would literally look like. Expanding outward the destruction of historic property would become more and more sever and obvious. As Hitler gained strangleholds closer to the oceans, siberia, Mediterannean sea, Himalayas etc. the need for proud display would become obviated as his power would be cemented and impossible to overthrow. This would be espicially true in less populous countries and in countries lacking in major urban centers as townships are harder to defend due to fewer stone walls and complexity of layout providing hiding places for resistance cells. Asia would most likey be nuked into oblivion as the secret weapons program would make this an obvious choice for preliminary real-world situation tests due to proximity to europe.

The Americas would also most likely suffer severe nuclear disaster however as another poster pointed out eventually the US government would cede due to lack of remaining allies and wish to preserve lives resulting in less destruction than in Asia.

Japanese style architecture would begin to prevade oceania as they would claim the Island countries as imperial territory.

Resistance

Resistance would mount quickly however be fairly ineffect in areas outside western Europe due to lack of support from the United States. As we all know the French resistance accomplished its goals with a good dose of help from England and the United States. As England would be quick to fall as it almost did (luckily for you brits Hitlers planes were repelled) America, being the last to fall because of the Atlantic and Pacific oceans being a barrier realisticly pentetrable only by ICBM's and space launch missle platforms would provide the only support to resistance cells. America would mainly assist in Western Europe as Asia is almost gone, and cultural ties were strongest there in the 1940's-1970's (I predict total take over by 1978). However with the ongoing development of secret weapons programs America (as a continent) would soon be more worried about protecting itself and withdraw troops.
Resistance in Eurasia fails 1965.

Assault on America

Hitler would invade the lower half of South America at first as a weak military presence here would make it unworthy of nuking and an easy choice to takeover. Using Mexico as a land bridge would also be the most ideal route of invasion into the United States which was the the strongest American military power.

South American countries would have the least cultural/architectural loss as fear of extermination (as in Asia) and impressiveness of invading force would be scary.

Life and Culture in the Third Reich

After the fall of 75% of Eurasia Hitler would begin change his policy of extermination as a slave class would be needed to operate the world's riches and infrastructure.

The center of his empire, the germanic regions, would be almost entirely Aryan. The oppresion of other races would be somewhat unknown in the center at first as was the case with concentraion camps (the general public in Germany 99% of whom were members of the Nazi party because you had to be were unaware). However soon owning a personal slave would become fashionable. As horifying as this sounds Hitler's youth groups and schools would cause the brainwashing of so many young minds they would not know this is wrong as accoured in the United States southern regions.

Mysticism would begin to spread out of the Nazi/SS inner circle and into the general public transforming into a religion shortly after Hitler's death and subsequent deification. Drugs would be a major part of this as has been in all primitive spiritual systems such as the celtic and South American aboriginal. However, implementation would be of a different paradigm with the public generally drugged a la 1984 (see Wilson's wife) and transforming into a THX 1138 style brainwashing.

Economics

As was the case with Germany in real life Hitler would essentially bankrupt his empire, however because of the lack of international trade this would not pose a problem to the government, only to the average citizen whom would be destitute.

The far future

After a great amount of time perhaps a hundred years or more revolutions would begin to occur as have with all major governments. Slowly, over the course of several hundred years the world would evolve into the place it is today except with much scarier weapons RE: the Nazi secret weapons program.

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So thats my theory, condensened, as to what would occur.

Isn't there a game out or coming out, about this very topic? Name escapes me at the moment.

Oh, and to all you conservative assholes who have been posting (you know who you are) I hate you. I hate you very much. And BTW Hitler created the ghetto, no way it would be gone. Ghettos were an early step in the holocaust, walled sections of cities were only Jews lived and the average caloric intake per week (or was it day?) was equal to a candy bar.
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Postby Shr3d on Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:25 pm

Bah no offence, but that's too long. People try and summarise your posts to just push out the key points :(
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Postby Sorrow on Wed Jan 03, 2007 1:34 pm

Thank god I'm blonde and have blue eyes :wink:

I don't think Hitler would've gotten to America even if the invasion of britain succeeded and D-day failed.
Somehow great empires don't really seem to last very long and as long as there was resistance it would slowly crumble... or maybe that's just what I'm hoping for.
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Postby Mr. Happy on Wed Jan 03, 2007 2:09 pm

Shr3d wrote:Bah no offence, but that's too long. People try and summarise your posts to just push out the key points :(


Whoops, didnt realize how long it was even though I cut a good bit out (wrote off the top) but I'll think Ill leave it cuz I think its prety well thought out
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Postby DrGlass on Thu Jan 04, 2007 1:27 am

Shr3d wrote:
zombie@computer wrote:
DrGlass wrote:What would it be like if your great great great great great great great great great great grandfather died at age 6?

no one knows, specuation is absolutly impossible. You can't even perdict whats going to happen 2 years into the future, much less 70+ years in the future from the past...

*note I didn't read any of this thread
you wouldnt exist because that 6 year old reat great great great great great great great great great grandfather wouldn't be able to make kids


Yes exactly. Unless he hit puberty at the age of 6 somehow. That's fucked up.


You both missed the point. :roll:
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:07 am

zombie@computer wrote:the cause of schizophrenia is typically genetic (or drug-induced). It can be triggered by stress, so one could get schizophrenic in jail because of the stress, but then that person already had it in a 'silent mode'


I think most of the drug induced cases are from people who had mild cases of it before hand. The drugs just made it worse.

I did some looking into weed causing someone the become Schizophrenic. It came through that no one has ever been made schiz by the stuff but there are a number of cases of people who suffered from it beforehand but very mildy becomming seriously bad cases afterwards. Some of the stuffs quite sad really.

Of cause this is just for weed. I don't know about other drugs.
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Postby slayera on Thu Jan 04, 2007 10:25 am

Athlete{UK} wrote:
zombie@computer wrote:the cause of schizophrenia is typically genetic (or drug-induced). It can be triggered by stress, so one could get schizophrenic in jail because of the stress, but then that person already had it in a 'silent mode'


I think most of the drug induced cases are from people who had mild cases of it before hand. The drugs just made it worse.

I did some looking into weed causing someone the become Schizophrenic. It came through that no one has ever been made schiz by the stuff but there are a number of cases of people who suffered from it beforehand but very mildy becomming seriously bad cases afterwards. Some of the stuffs quite sad really.

Of cause this is just for weed. I don't know about other drugs.


I was doing some reading on some superduper medical pot the was effective in reducing symptoms of schizophenic, to a degree to allow the person to function near normal. This pot can't found on the street. Besides when you stop smoking pot the effects all but go away.
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Postby zombie@computer on Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:12 am

Athlete{UK} wrote:
zombie@computer wrote:the cause of schizophrenia is typically genetic (or drug-induced). It can be triggered by stress, so one could get schizophrenic in jail because of the stress, but then that person already had it in a 'silent mode'


I think most of the drug induced cases are from people who had mild cases of it before hand. The drugs just made it worse.

I did some looking into weed causing someone the become Schizophrenic. It came through that no one has ever been made schiz by the stuff but there are a number of cases of people who suffered from it beforehand but very mildy becomming seriously bad cases afterwards. Some of the stuffs quite sad really.

Of cause this is just for weed. I don't know about other drugs.
You can become schizophrenic by certain drugs, once saw an experiment about that in Germany. Pretty weird effect though, you swallow some drug (some kind of medecine, cant remember the exact name) and you turn schizo for a few hours. One of our psychiatry teachers underwent the experience, twas the worst thing he ever did.
I cant say anything about the drugs you find in the streets, but please remember that most homeless people are already schizo and thus more sceptical to start drug-usage in the first place. IIRC, over 70% of homeless ppl in the us are schizo.
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:15 am

How sever was the shiz? I mean that sounds terrible. I wouldn't agree to undergo an experiment like that.
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Postby zombie@computer on Thu Jan 04, 2007 11:20 am

well, he told us he was struggling not to kill the other researchers because they were conspiring against them. The video of him looked pretty freaky, it sure changed my opinion about schizo's from "weirdo's" to "poor sods".

needless to say this was an experiment that never got through the ethical commision. They never even bothered, they just used the drugs on themselves, as true scientists!.
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