So I was Told Today that World War III is going to happen

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So I was Told Today that World War III is going to happen

Postby Ace on Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:45 pm

Today I was told that World War III was expected to happen this year. I understand that many people from different countries have different views on this and I'm talking from an American view just so I don't offend/piss off/anger :wink: . I am also going to add that this is coming from the view of my HISTORY TEACHER not me. I'm just putting this thought out there to people. I personally don't believe that this will happen either.

A couple of months ago, the United Nations became very suspicious in nuclear bombs being made in Iran. They photographed a suspected site where they believed the weapons were being made. When they asked to visit the site, Iran agreed but delayed the visit for over 2 months. We then photographed the same site 2 more times and found that the whole entire site had been remodeled and that the suspected testing area had been totally collapsed. The site was changed completely. Upon visit, the UN found nothing :( .

Then no more than 1 week later, Iran had started deals with the Russian government. Two weeks later the Iranians closed a deal and bought mass amounts of missile defense systems from Russia which are suspected to be used in the supposed WWIII. And also signified a relation between Iran and Russia.

Here is a timeline that I was told would suspectedly happen if the war would occur:

1: Long time rivals of Iran, Israel, has had many conflicts with the country and terrorist groups. These are suspected to be the targets of the original nuclear bombings. Israel could suffer enormous numbers of fatalities.

2: US has been an ally of Israel since the war with the Middle East. So if you cant figure that out on your own then that means: THE UNITED STATES WILL BE DRAWN INTO THE WAR.

3: The people that dealt with the Iranians, Russians, will more than likely take defense of Iran leading to a very very bad event for Americans. This will supply man power, resources, and more brainpower into the war.

4: Great Britain, allies of the US, are then more than likely to get involved if the above events occur.

5: This point is unknown and are many different opinions. Mine is that most of the rest of the world will join the war considering the fact that Iran will have mass quantities of nuclear bombs.

6: Some people believe that the bombs will kill too many people as a result of the original impact and more importantly, the afteraffect: radiation in massive amounts in vass areas. A bomb is believed to be capable of easily destroying all of New York City, New York with an average population of 8 MILLION!!!

Facts on the nuclear bomb:
1. Has already reached impact forces of 10.4 megatons which is over 450 times more powerful than the bomb dropped on Nagasaki during World War II. This test was conducted in 1952. With amazing progress yet another bomb was tested and reached an impact force of about 15 megatons showing deadly progress in this field.
2. 9 countries at the moment haved been proved to have nuclear weapons: US, Russia, China, UK, France, Israel (in a recent slip from the ambassador), India, North Korea, and Pakistan. The recently suspected Iran will be number ten if proved.
3. For more info check out my link at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclear_weapons

This is a very serious issue and I don't want people posting on here on how funny it would be if we just started blowing the world up. I also would appreciate if nobody from a different country, I understand many people here are from a different country, flame me on how its our fault or so and sos fault, this isn't a "Who wrote on the wall?" mystery or a "Who missed the toilet?" incidence. Keep it serious. I want to know what you think. I think that it is going to take a lot of guts from different countries in able for this event to happen. But if it does it will turn into a global affair leading to too many deaths and a regression of global progress into several fields. Feel free to email me if you are going to flame me. :twisted:
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Postby The Watcher on Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:51 pm

I somewhat have a hard time believing this (tbh, I thought this current war WAS WWIII so-to-speak...). :?
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Postby Ace on Thu Feb 08, 2007 10:59 pm

1: (This is just my opinion on the current war) I thought the current war was a war on terrorism. Terrorism is different because it is bringing "terror" to the people it attacks. This war right now has not been proved to be supported by any government were as War is. I guess we won't know until the war ends and they name it i guess.

2: I really don't believe it is going to happen either. I was told this by my history teacher (who i hate). I put this topic up just to inform people of bigger things that are going on that are pretty eye opening.

3: All the bomb stuff is all facts from Wikipedia. Cant go wrong there.

4: Thank you for you opinion. Thats all i ask for. I want to here what EVERYONE have to say.
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Postby SlappyBag on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:03 pm

I personally don't want this to happen, I'm only fucking 16 for crying out loud and am trying to get into game development, if this happens and things go very pear shaped I'll probs be forced/drafted into the military.

God sakez.

Your timeline makes alot of sense if its all true, as previously meantioned i'm only 16 and don't have a large grasp on the world.
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Postby Caste on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:12 pm

Honestly, I can't say I'm really worried.
First of all you just come out and say that WW3 is supposed to happen this year without citing anything.
Then you say missile defence systems will be used it, which is rather unshocking as most militarly developed countries have such systems.

Besides that, there's the fact that although Iran may get 'the bomb' they have no possible way to deliver it. No rocket systems to speak of, so delivery would have to be made by jet or ground, limiting its range EXTENSIVELY.

Secondly, it'd be mighty foolish for the US to get drawn into another war, and I'd say almost to the point where the US are incapable of doing so. They're already stretched way too thin in Iraq, a major operation would only hinder both as a whole.
Most likely the US will provide Israel with support jets, bombs, and weapons - like, but no way are they putting mass boots on the ground for the long term.

A lot of people suspected the Lebannon-Israel war last year to heat up into a WW3 situation, but countries have learned, and it fizzled out before anything major happened.

Honestly, I believe we'll never see another World War, things simply don't work like that anymore. Countries have way too many resources/assets in each other now to have massive divides like those of the first two.
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Postby Ace on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:22 pm

thank you for your opinion caste and i edited the top so people would know that this is coming from the voice of my history teach (me=15, yet smart (not dumb)) oops used double parantheses. I also dont believe this
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Postby Sorrow on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:23 pm

Lol well if it happens you're the ones to die first, not me! haha! blame your filthy government!
for me? well I guess it'll become somewhat like the film twelve monkeys, we're trying to revert that stuff from happening, so expect some assassinations in the coming days.

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god some part of me actually wishes this to happen, I'm so curious.

after playing SC I'm even more curious. I love hypothetical stuff I suppose.
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Postby Ace on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:28 pm

ya i guess from your point it doesnt seem that bad. like from our point of view: japan deserved the two atomic bombs dropped on them. Yet from Japan's point of view: they probably didn't like that.
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Postby Sorrow on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:37 pm

japan deserved the two atomic bombs dropped on them. Yet from Japan's point of view: they probably didn't like that.


I don't see how that relates, because... IIRC we that is, the dutch, didn't really do anything to ya did we? except lick your governments ass at every turn they made.
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Postby Jest@ on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:47 pm

I try to avoid Serious Discussion, a lot of the discussions end up being too long and badly-argued for me to follow, so I'll keep it short...I'm a student of Government and History at an internationally-respected social science institute, and I specialise in Middle Eastern history and foreign affairs - now, I'm not trying to claim authority or superiority over anyone, or that I know better (hell, I'm not a good student ;)) but it does mean I engage every day with people who think about this kind of stuff for a living, some of whom have actually held positions of some influence, and several of whom have direct personal experience in the relevant countries.


It won't happen.

my argument in one-sentence propositions:

--The Iranian population as a whole wouldn't support it - the government has far, far less popular support than commonly percieved, it would end up being a short war.
--No nukes will get launched - Israeli intelligence is nuts over the issue, Iranian military leaders couldnt get near the button without a shitstorm raining down on them.
--Iran (afaik) doesnt have ICBM missiles, it's missile range is pretty limited.
--Russia and China have no economic, political, cultural or ideological reason to get sucked in to a large war - they support Iran's programme tacitly for a) financial gain and b) a fuzzy and weak sense that Iran does have a right to nuclear technology, but I seriously doubt they would sustain, or provide material support for, this sentiment in the event of any aggression
--Just like North Korea, Iran is doing all this shit for show. It has no reason to start a war, it's economy is in major trouble. It's lot of (very expensive) noise-making in an attempt to shore up support, by 'standing up to the west'. Evidence of popular sentiment coming from Iran (I know 3 people who live in Iran, and my dad used to live there) is that the Iranian people don't really buy this kind of rhetoric any more.
--The US is so, so stretched in Iraq and Afghanistan, any more and they're gonna have to reinstate the draft. I seriously doubt the US population would support it at all.
--While it's true that if someone kicked something off, the US would have to act, it wouldn't necessarily have to get sucked in they way it has elsewhere, it has the power to pretty much force a diplomatic solution by threatening major aid restrictions etc.
--yes, the US is a close Israeli ally, but it's also a close Saudi ally, Egyptian ally, Pakistani ally...the list of its interests in the region are legion, something of this nature would not be acceptable to its interests. Ok, so neither was Iraq, but that was exceptional circumstances (the stakes were considered to be lower that they have ended up being, and certainly lower than a nuclear confrontation in a desert region)
--The whole freaking world would go nuts if a nuke was launched in aggression. Every nation would support, staff and fund a major peacekeeping mission, designed to freeze the region's active forces and prevent any combat. It would be a UN imperative to totally disarm any combatants.

I'd like to present a more coherent position, but i have 12,000 words to write (3,000 of which are on the Iranian revolution actually) before tomorrow evening. Plus, I fear this is gonna become another one of those oh-so-long, oh-so-wrong Serious Discussion things, where each post takes a year to read. (I just preveiwed my own post, damn, I'm guilty of my own accusations :P)
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Postby Sorrow on Thu Feb 08, 2007 11:52 pm

okay, it's not gonna happen, that's a shame.
next topic then?
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Postby DarkDemonenator on Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:39 am

If it happens I'll be first in line at the MEPS station.
I'll laugh forever.
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Postby Kodox on Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:16 am

Oh...




Well, I hope that doesn't happen because there are sooooo many things in life I haven't done yet.
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Re: So I was Told Today that World War III is going to happe

Postby Rooster on Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:27 am

Ace wrote:2: US has been an ally of Israel since the war with the Middle East. So if you cant figure that out on your own then that means:THE UNITED STATES WILL BE DRAWN INTO THE WAR.


the U.S. was also allies with the U.K. before WWII
and we werent involved until we were directly attacked during Pearl Harbor.
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Postby Shr3d on Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:43 am

Those fucking koalas. I don't trust them. They're up to something.
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