When did America become a nation of cowardice?

[Meotwister]

Yes, because you have to see it from another perspective than ours.

This would be accurate if you couldn't make a discernible distinction between the French Resistance, etc and these people. Blowing yourself up to kill innocent civilians is not honorable or does anything for a noble cause, it's for invoking terror amongst the people. Terrorism

Of course there were none to the scale there are now... Right now there are more major targets to bomb that are in their own backyard so to speak.

Yeah, because they feel mistreated by us. Invading their countries and bombing them back into Stone Age and forcing them to use our idea of government certainly does not make them feel a lot better.

Not comparing anyone here to this but that's said a lot to the people being trained for this and the followers of these groups. Things have happened in the past sure but facts will get twisted and skewed to serve the higher ups in these organizations and to manipulate these people further. And while you can say Bush does this or whoever else, maybe so maybe not, but even if that was the case at least it's not to strap a bomb to our chest and blow up a major monument or a school.

Plus not every western country has treated them badly either.

How do you explain their hatred of Israel as well?

Really, I believe had no Western country ever interfered over there in that region it would still be in a state of turmoil.

It does not, of course. But the invasion of Iraq did not really help either.

You're right but was that the purpose of why we went over there? No of course not. Is that the purpose of these organizations? That's what they say.

[Sorrow]

Regardless of how much the people over there hate you, you need to stay and fix things imo.
just start with outlying parts first, help them get fresh water, clothing, schools etc. eventually things will sink in that we're not there to irritate them.

I hope.

[Sathor]

Over the time, yes, perhaps.

I read in the newspaper today that US Embassy warned the US citizens in Germany to be more careful, because of higher danger of terrorist attacks.

Of course there is a difference between French resistance, because there is a major difference between Nazi Germany and the USA (I will never say anything different!). But you must understand that I don't argue in favor of the terrorist in any way, but want to understand their point of view, which is, we have to admit, far away from anything we could say is reasonable. In their culture, it IS honorable to kill yourself, in their culture, there is nothing like "civilians". We may not define their behaviour on basis of our culture, if we want to understand what those people WANT to achieve and WHY they do it in their way.

Be certain that I am, although I do not agree that waging wars in the style we are waging today, a supporter of the War against Terror. I am a man of the western world, I am afraid of terrorist attacks in my own country (refer the warnings about terror attacks), and I know most people in the islamic countries suffer even more than we do under those "few" fanatics. But I just think that loads of weapons that have not even been dropped upon Germany in WWII are not suitable to give the children education, hope and a future, which would eventually stop terrorism.

How do you explain their hatred of Israel as well?

Perhaps the arrogance of them Iraeli politicians. I got to be careful, otherwise I will have the police knocking on my door soon.

[Sorrow]

if you could please summarize that in like 2 to 3 lines so anybody would care to read?

[Sathor]

12 lines would still be ok ...

[Zabiela]

Doc quit being an idiot. And Athlete, could you please delete that? Its taking up the space 8 pages would.

[Sorrow]

According to the Bible 2 Billion+ Will Die (1/3 Population) I have a timeframe of around 2018 (2016-2020) In My Blog Entitled "I know When the End of The Age Begins" Which also connects 9/11 In the End times.

lol this really did it for me hahaha brilliant

[DocRock]

Doc quit being an idiot. And Athlete, could you please delete that? Its taking up the space 8 pages would.

Why are you worried about space? If you're so concerned about it, why not tell people to get rid of their rediculous avatars?

What an idiotic cop-out. What are you so afraid of?

[Meotwister]

According to the Bible 2 Billion+ Will Die (1/3 Population) I have a timeframe of around 2018 (2016-2020) In My Blog Entitled "I know When the End of The Age Begins" Which also connects 9/11 In the End times.

lol this really did it for me hahaha brilliant

lol I didnt see when that huge thing was up but that's just hilarious. Any talk of Nostradamus or making word searches in the bible in there?

I see this discussion pretty much died also heh.

[Zabiela]

Why are you worried about space? If you're so concerned about it, why not tell people to get rid of their rediculous avatars?

What an idiotic cop-out. What are you so afraid of?

If we were face to face I would just stare at you're forehead.

[-[Getty]-]

Now, it's perfectly fine for private residents/owners to require you to strip down and put on a clown nose before entering their house... but not government buildings which are mandatory to enter. Government buildings are 'ours'.

Not True. It's government's property and they have the right and responsibility to make sure they are safe.

Quoting from the Article:

When did we decide it was okay for the government to seize property without a trial, without due process, at the whim of a government agency?

Hmm, let me see... Since the freaking Constitution was written you idiot. It's not a "whim" either. I don't agree with this law, but get your facts right buddy. It's if the government says they need the land for the betterment of society (highway, etc) they can take your land and compensate you with money. Granted, it's never enough money, but still, like I said earlier, get your facts right.

When did we decide to allow routine police roadblocks? Why weren’t we outraged?

Why would the police randomly block a road. I'm guessing he's talking about sobriety checks. And if it keeps idiots from drinking and driving, I'm all for it.

When did we decide that drug testing High School students was reasonable? Hell, why is it reasonable to drug test anyone – ever? Why would anybody, for any reason, have the right to invade your body without your permission?

Well lets see, in schools, it's mainly athletes, and that's to check whether the use of steroids are being used. Also, last time I checked, drugs are illegal, so that MIGHT have something to do with it, buddy.

When did we decide to give 10 year prison sentences to adolescents for having sex? Was it before or after we decided to put them in jail for smoking cigarettes and drinking beer?

I would LOVE to see what his source is for this! Yes, it's illegal to drink when your underage, but smoking is legal at whatever age, it's just not legal to buy them until your 18. And as for the sex thing, that's ridiculous. Maybe it was a sexual assault case, or maybe it was statutory rape, in which case it wouldn't be an adolescent who gets put in jail.

When did we decide it is too risky for 20-year-olds to drink but reasonable for them to kill and die overseas? Does that make sense to anyone?

Possibly the only good point he makes in the whole article.

every mini van in America had a ‘baby-on-board’ sign.

Maybe I'm just ignorant in this field, but what the HELL is he talking about?

It is sad to watch our freedom slowly disappear in front of our eyes with so few people taking action.

Personally, I don't see any change in our freedom. I feel just as free now as I did 10 years ago. And personally, I think there are TOO MANY people trying to take action about it, but end up just bitching in online articles like this.



I left a nice comment on this guys blog:

If you hate America and everything it stands for, shown by half your blogs, why don't you just move to another country? It's that freaking simple. I despise nothing more than people who complain about everything in America, yet refuse to do anything about it but complain on a blog.

I am assuming you will delete this comment as soon as you find it, but that's fine with me. I just want to get my message across to you: If you don't like America, that's fine. But how about instead of bitching about it, just leave. That's easy enough, isn't it? Just leave.

[nub]

I'm not sure how relevant to this topic what I am about to say is, but I, being an American, must lay something on the tables of this type of discussion:

Why do foreign countries hate the "people" of America?

It's not like we vote to go to war, the Government has all the say in that. I always see things like, "Americans are idiots," or "It's all the American's fault for this war." But in truth, the people have not done a damn thing.

It really ticks me off though. I've seen countless videos, articles, and other things that try to make America look bad, from other countries. But I have NEVER seen anything of that sort about other countries that come from America. In my opinion, the ones who feed the world this bull crap are the real A-holes. Why blame the people when they have done nothing wrong?

I'll admit that there are some Americans who act a little ignorant, but that's just certain people, with different life-styles. Such things are Rednecks, gangsters, skaters, blah blah blah. All sorts of different groups of people live in America, and they all have a different attitude about the current situation. And most of them truly don't know what is really going on in the world. I feel that way about them, and the other people who try to make Americans look bad.

I myself have not been anywhere outside America, nor have I even studied up on all these events. All I know is that America is in a war with Terrorists in Iraq.

They can't blame us for having tight ass security at airports either. I think the term 9/11 sort of brings up a tragedy that happened almost 6 years ago. And the cause being terrorists who hi-jacked planes and flew them into the Twin Towers. We obviously did not have a tight enough security, and that very event is what put us into action and we practically Fort Knoxed every airport in America. Have we had any attacks since? No. And we plan to keep it that way.

Now, if any discussion of the President comes up. He has a very low popularity percentage. I think it's like 29% or something. Well, his time will be up soon. This is his last run before he cannot be president anymore. The election in 2008 will mark that he has been the President for 4 years straight, and that's the max before you automatically are not enabled to be president anymore.

I think that no one in America but the government will truly know why we are in the war and what not, but I hope that it ends soon. I have a brother in Iraq right now, I think that all the people who have to go through the war need to be thought of more. Not just the soldiers, but those who live in Iraq who no longer have a home from bombings. People who have lost loved ones who were brought into the war, and the families of the soldiers in Iraq.

It's not like all the people in America are cheering them on and hoping we kill every Iraqi or some shit like that. I think we are sort of suffering economically because of the war. Especially in gas prices fluctuating. And all those damn hurricanes that hit the East Coast didn't do any good either, we got a lucky brake last year, and hopefully we will again this year.

PS: I'm not sure if any of you have heard of that WBC group in the state of Kansas, but I think that the people in that group are complete religious nut jobs.


That's just my thoughts about all of this bull crap.

[Persol]

Now, it's perfectly fine for private residents/owners to require you to strip down... not government buildings... Government buildings are 'ours'.

Not True. It's government's property and they have the right and responsibility to make sure they are safe.

Who is 'they'?

If 'they' are the employees... your statement isn't true for any non-government building.

If 'they' are the owners... that's the american people... including the guy being searched.

If 'they' are the building's security... security is usually determined by the owners and what the customers will accept. In both cases, that's us.

Why would the police randomly block a road. I'm guessing he's talking about sobriety checks. And if it keeps idiots from drinking and driving, I'm all for it.

That's dangerous. I'm against druinking and driving as much as the next guy... but allowing random sampling is going to far. Raise the penalties of those who do it... or invest a small amount of money (compared to hiring more cops) and automate detection of driving infractions like they do in Australia... don't randomly check everyone. It's the equivalent of 'your papers please'.

Also, last time I checked, drugs are illegal, so that MIGHT have something to do with it, buddy.

Similar to above, the government should not and does not have the right to invade your privacy or require you to prove yourself innocent of a crime they have no reason to think you committed... regardless of the fact that the government seems to think it should have that right.

I would LOVE to see what his source is for this!

This was quite awhile ago. Basically the parents of the girl didn't like the guy. The state law called it was statuatory rape even though the two people were only a year apart in age.

I despise nothing more than people who complain about everything in America, yet refuse to do anything about it but complain on a blog.

I believe you are (not purposefully) ignorant here. Many people who complain about it DO do something... like vote, write their representatives and (most importantly) inform others so that they can do the same thing.

[Dead-Inside]

Obviously Getty missed the point of trying to raise support for a cause as a valid option, instead of say "taking action" by randomly shooting people at a university.

[DocRock]

If we were face to face I would just stare at you're forehead.

Then I'd reach across the table and slap you real hard and yell "WAKE UP!"