Do you believe in Aliens?

[Athlete{UK}]

Well the whole thing was if the universe is infinite which is still a contested theory.

Far more likely however in that the universe does have an edge of sorts because the evidence is there. Big bang. The universe is still expanding (thank you red shift!) but still. Pretty fooking big

[Mr. Happy]

No, the universe is infinite in size and expanding. I think. It's like baking a loaf of bread.

It's inifinitely tiny anway, compared to that membrane.

But one theory holds that all life on earth came from a microbe on an asteroid. Seems plausible that some alien, humanoid, race sprinkled their DNA on a bunch of asteroids and sent them on their way, or in the primordial soup of many worlds. Then we'd all look similar to them, and dance together. But that's star-trek's explanation of all aliens lookin like us...

At any rate I think the human race as a species will some day encounter an alien race, maybe in fifty, maybe in fifty thousand years. "Faster than light travel" is easy, it's manipulating stars that's the hard part, but throughout history we've found ways to put ever more tremendous forces under our control.

Pratchett.

yay

[zombie@computer]

No, the universe is infinite in size and expanding.

thats a contradiction. Something infinite cant expand...

[Athlete{UK}]

I think it's the idea that space it'self isn't uniform. Something can drift in a straight line for an infinite amount of time but only because of space going round in 11 dimensional circles.

Star treks explination is bullshit to be honest mate. We came form single celled life forms. The whole humanoid shape (jaws and vertibrea i mean) hadn't even begun to set in until several millions of years of evolution Only if an alien already evolved to a humanoid shape would lead to a level of similarty to be considered humanoid.

How do youmean manipulating stars btw?

[Snownation]

No, the universe is infinite in size and expanding.

thats a contradiction. Something infinite cant expand...

I don't think he means it that way.

Numbers are infinite, but yet you can see them expanding as you exponentiate them.

[zombie@computer]

No, the universe is infinite in size and expanding.

thats a contradiction. Something infinite cant expand...

I don't think he means it that way.

Numbers are infinite, but yet you can see them expanding as you exponentiate them.

the only numbers that are infinite are infinite, 0 and -infinite, all of which will stay infinite if you exponentiate them

but this is getting offtopic

[ƒray]

Remember XENU he sent all spirits and crap here!!!

:P

That was offtopic

But yea,

I think there is other life out there. Of course

[Mr. Happy]

Star treks explination is bullshit to be honest mate. We came form single celled life forms. The whole humanoid shape (jaws and vertibrea i mean) hadn't even begun to set in until several millions of years of evolution Only if an alien already evolved to a humanoid shape would lead to a level of similarty to be considered humanoid.

Of course it's bs

How do youmean manipulating stars btw?

Well, wormholes, warp drive, space folding, it's all theoretically possible if you can manipulate large enough masses. Since heavy objects drag space, it wouldn't be too hard to create a wormhole by dragging two star clusters near each other.

Because of gravity.

And of course gravity comes in both particle and field forms, shouldn't be too hard to conceive of a strong enough electromagnetic field that can be modulated by RF (like in a tomamak) to manipulate space to make a warp field. Last time I checked, all the forces in the universe were unified, or at least, that's one theory.


How is zero infinite? Perhaps it's infintesimal? What about Pi? That's infinite in a way. And why can't something have a finite size in one dimension and be infinite in another?

The universe is one "size" but every point in that matrix expands (at hubble's constant) in the three spatial dimensions. Nothing is ever added to the volume of the universe, it's like a balloon, it just becomes less dense. Or like a loaf of nut bread baking, the nuts just get farther apart but they stay in the same relative positions. I think that's how the professors explained it...been a couple years since that lecure series

You are ignoring the other eight! Especially the fourth Would you not agree time is infinite? Or is it expanding. Does the moment in time after this one exist prior to it's happening or is it created by the preceeding one?


I think what I posted makes sense

[rb_lestr]

Do I believe in Aliens?



Yes.

[dragonfliet]

Sure.

[zombie@computer]

How is zero infinite?

zero does not exist, so its size is -infinte and +infinte at the same time (this only applies to physical sizes offcourse)

And why can't something have a finite size in one dimension and be infinite in another?

Nobdy said that can't, but when you say the universe is infinite, you say its infinite in infinite dimensions. (as you cannot define infinite in a finite definition, thats like trying to catch an elephant in a mouse cage). Offcourse if you restrict to saying what you meant, finite in x dimensions yet growing in a few others, then i guess its possible yea, but considering the fact that the universe is everyting, i fail to comprehend how it can be finite in any other dimension we possibly have...

Would you not agree time is infinite? Or is it expanding. Does the moment in time after this one exist prior to it's happening or is it created by the preceeding one?

Time is a dimension (if it is one) thats hard to comprehend (atleast for me ) I would say time in itself is infinite, so it isnt growing, but that doesn't mean time cant pass longer and longer. Compare it with a circulair shaped path: Though the circle doesnt expand, a person travelling on it can travel longer and longer and longer till the end of everything. Maybe a bad example tho

Do I believe in Aliens?

yes, somewhere, someplace life must exist. But i doubt we will contact it ever before our race dies out.

[ixin]

What the? It's not logical that we came from another planet. That life did (singlecell organisms) is a possibility though.

ixin, you made me laugh. You're sad.

They're opinions. I could say your "logical" explanations are sad. No need for a flame war. I agree with the others though. But it's just my way of thinking.

[vecima]

...Seems plausible that some alien, humanoid, race sprinkled their DNA on a bunch of asteroids and sent them on their way, or in the primordial soup of many worlds. Then we'd all look similar to them, and dance together...

The problem here is that you have to assume primates would evolve from the 'sprinkling' and that the primates will be the first species to evolve into a sentient race. it could have been the dolphins or some other creature, or even one of the other primate lines. The best alien DNA could be responsible for would be the coommon things we see in most animal life forms. (position of eyes relative to nose/nostrils relative to position of mouth... position of limbs relative to the rest of the body...) also, this is only regarding animal life. if aliens planted life that was meant to evolve into a 'humanoid' why did we also wind up with plants, bacteria, and fungi?

[Sathor]

As we developed according to our enviroment, it is just not really plausible that we as a humanoid lifeform come from space ... I mean, it is just the same to explain why we are "better" than animals. So many people just can't believe we have the same roots ... but I think it is that way. Why do we always need to be so special? People believing not in Evolution just have a problem with admitting that humankind is just not so special, and therefore, they themselves are not special.

[Skeetz]

I think there are other intelligent species out there, and I think there are some space faring ones that know of us, too. I just think they don't want to interfere with us.

Alright, anyone who has ever watched any of the Star Trek series is probably familiar with the Prime Directive. It states that no ship in the Federation can make contact with species who have not yet achieved faster-than-light travel, so that they may not interfere with the natural order of things. I think that's the case with us- there are intelligent species that could visit us, and know of us, but they don't because they don't want to interfere with our natural progression.

Personally, I think it is only a matter of time until we achieve the technology to be able to travel faster than light. So i think someday we will make first contact with another species.