Florida Student Tasered - This makes me sick

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Florida Student Tasered - This makes me sick

Postby Rocket_Robinhood on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:15 am

http://blog.washingtonpost.com/offbeat/ ... ent_1.html

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1776114

I want to avoid a cops are dicks rant, but it sickens me that 1: the mans right to free speech is being denied and 2: As far as my research has lead me to believe the police officers actiuons have yet to be questioned, let alone been punished for.

And it's not that this is an isolated event, cops are always being brutal, denying people their rights, i have to ask if the police police the people, who polices the police?

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Postby Mr. Happy on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:27 am

Internal Affairs.

A division of....



the police.

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Postby firedfns13 on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:33 am

Lawsuits,which have yet to do anything. I vote the military to police the police.

Yeah, if thats the video that i'm thinking of (with Kerry's speech, saw it on break.com) the cops had no reason to do that, any of it, at all.
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Postby CanMan on Wed Sep 19, 2007 2:35 am

I saw this on the news about 20 min after I saw it on youtube, haha.
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Postby Mr. Happy on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:11 am

CanMan wrote:I saw this on the news about 20 min after I saw it on youtube, haha.


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Postby srredfire on Wed Sep 19, 2007 3:19 am

My brother-in-law is a cop. And he's a dick. He used to be cool. Now he's a dick.
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Postby Generalvivi on Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:42 am

wow thats such bullshit . that could have been handled alot better.
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Postby MrTwoVideoCards on Wed Sep 19, 2007 4:57 am

Yeah i heard that on the news this morning, but what did he do wrong? Man thats so ridiculous. Poor guy.
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Postby Mr. Happy on Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:24 am

He asked some questions Kerry wanted to answer.
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Postby srredfire on Wed Sep 19, 2007 5:30 am

He was a Russian spy. Working for the UNDERGROUND SOVIET UNION.
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Postby dragonfliet on Wed Sep 19, 2007 6:29 am

Oh lord. It was a town meeting forum with rules of conduct. He exceeded his time, and instead of giving up, he kept going (and going and going) despite being asked to wrap it up. They cut his mike and tried to usher him out (not arrest him, just make him leave) when he started pulling and pushing away. THAT's why he was arrested. As he further struggled and refused to cooperate, then he was tasered.

While yes, the guy has the right to free speech, when in a publicly owned building there are rules to follow, when you break the rules you get asked to leave, when you don't leave you get arrested, when you resist arrest, you get hurt. It's a pretty simple equation.

This isn't a free speech issue, this is a time and place issue. If he wanted to yell like a lunatic outside the building, that was his prerogative. If he wanted to be crazy inside, he had a set time limit to follow. When he failed to obey, "free speech" doesn't cover him.

Yeah, yeah, I know, we have to hate the police, but good lord, I haven't seen a more fitting use of shocking some idiot in a while.


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Postby Kelikan on Wed Sep 19, 2007 7:31 am

dragonfliet wrote:Oh lord. It was a town meeting forum with rules of conduct. He exceeded his time, and instead of giving up, he kept going (and going and going) despite being asked to wrap it up. They cut his mike and tried to usher him out (not arrest him, just make him leave) when he started pulling and pushing away. THAT's why he was arrested. As he further struggled and refused to cooperate, then he was tasered.

While yes, the guy has the right to free speech, when in a publicly owned building there are rules to follow, when you break the rules you get asked to leave, when you don't leave you get arrested, when you resist arrest, you get hurt. It's a pretty simple equation.

This isn't a free speech issue, this is a time and place issue. If he wanted to yell like a lunatic outside the building, that was his prerogative. If he wanted to be crazy inside, he had a set time limit to follow. When he failed to obey, "free speech" doesn't cover him.

Yeah, yeah, I know, we have to hate the police, but good lord, I haven't seen a more fitting use of shocking some idiot in a while.


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Postby Blink on Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:09 am

dragonfliet wrote:Oh lord. It was a town meeting forum with rules of conduct. He exceeded his time, and instead of giving up, he kept going (and going and going) despite being asked to wrap it up. They cut his mike and tried to usher him out (not arrest him, just make him leave) when he started pulling and pushing away. THAT's why he was arrested. As he further struggled and refused to cooperate, then he was tasered.

While yes, the guy has the right to free speech, when in a publicly owned building there are rules to follow, when you break the rules you get asked to leave, when you don't leave you get arrested, when you resist arrest, you get hurt. It's a pretty simple equation.

This isn't a free speech issue, this is a time and place issue. If he wanted to yell like a lunatic outside the building, that was his prerogative. If he wanted to be crazy inside, he had a set time limit to follow. When he failed to obey, "free speech" doesn't cover him.

Yeah, yeah, I know, we have to hate the police, but good lord, I haven't seen a more fitting use of shocking some idiot in a while.


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Rubbish, you do not need to tazer a suspect that is pinned down on the floor beneath 4-5 'police officers' (just college police were they not, not even real cops?)

He could of easily been cuffed there and then, or even better, just marched straight out of the room and held until he cooled down.

Typical americans over reacting to everything, the student and the police.
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Postby ShaDoW on Wed Sep 19, 2007 10:50 am

What Blink said.

Most of these "campus officers" hardly get to use their expensive toys.
So they will use them from the moment they have the oppertunity.

All they need to hear during training is "non lethal weapon".
Much better were the days that you could just cuff someone and use some real muscle to drag him out of there like a man.
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Postby Cardboard on Wed Sep 19, 2007 11:07 am

The argument for using tasers in such a situation is generally that a taser is actually less likely to harm the person that is getting arrested than brute force would be. For example when trying to restrain someone with handcuffs who is fighting against you it is apparently not that unlikely that bones get broken or joints dislocated.
On the other hand there are people arguing that tasers can cause problems or even death with people who have heart problems.
That´s the arguments both sides use.
Personally i don´t really know enough about tasers to have a qualified opinion, though.
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