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Postby Ripper_hugme on Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:17 am

I'm amazed that in a country of civil wars, poverty and famine that this person still has a head on her shoulders.

Apparently one of the punishments could have been 40 lashes.
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Postby Mr. Happy on Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:17 am

The "Scopes Trial" (Scopes v. State, 152 Tenn. 424, 278 S.W. 57 (Tenn. 1925), often called the "Scopes Monkey Trial") was an American legal case that tested a law passed on March 13, 1925, which forbade the teaching, in any state-funded educational establishment in Tennessee, of "any theory that denies the story of the Divine Creation of man as taught in the Bible, and to teach instead that man has descended from a lower order of animals." The case was a watershed in the creation-evolution controversy.


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Postby RawMeat3000 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:38 am

For questions like that, consult with God...I mean Google.
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Postby Bema on Fri Nov 30, 2007 2:53 am

Ripper_hugme wrote:Apparently one of the punishments could have been 40 lashes.


That's if she had been found guilty on all three charges. In the end she was only found guilty on one.

And I doubt they wouldn't have been stupid enough to go for the lashes.
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Postby Zipfinator on Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:09 am

Oh yeah the religion and evolution in school shit... Stupid teachers teaching us things in 1920, 1800's, and 1990's all at once!!!
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Postby Sacul15 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:02 am

Zipfinator wrote:This is just stupid...

BTW was the Scopes trial the one with the slave who said he was free because of the states his master brought him to or the one about the Italians being blamed for killing 2 people and robbing them after the 1918 Red Scare. I think it's the slave one but I'm not sure...

The slave one is Dred Scott. I don't know about the Italian one.
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Postby xen on Fri Nov 30, 2007 3:56 pm

It gets worse.

Marchers chanted "Shame, shame on the UK", "No tolerance - execution" and "Kill her, kill her by firing squad".


Truly ridiculous, not only would it be stupid and barbaric to kill her for such a minor misunderstanding, also since when was she a representative for the entire UK? When I first saw this story I didn't want to label the Sudanese as all being so extreme, I gave them the benefit of the doubt as I didn't know how many people complained. But now there is thousands of them protesting calling for execution it doesn't exactly give me a good impression of Sudan, which is already famous for being a shit hole from recent issues.

And yes - we're right. And they're wrong.


Couldn't agree more.
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Postby Sathor on Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:01 pm

In those situations I tend to support the USA in their politics ... if one of those fuckers blows a bomb in our countrys, just kill a few hundreds of them ... but we aren't that barbaric anymore.
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Postby ad_hominem on Fri Nov 30, 2007 4:05 pm

Bema wrote:What's the point of being a significant world power...

Wait, the UK? Seriously? :-D

Anyway, I've had basically the same conversation in all my classes this week on this topic. Obviously it was over-zealous from our point of view, but we have to remember the west has a huge cultural difference to the Middle East. Fundamantalist Islam takes this kind of thing very seriously, and while we may find that a little hard to tolerate, we can't really have a say on the matter from out Western viewpoint.

Thiat's the reason the Arab-Israeli conflict is still going on, imo, due to the fundamentalists on both sides, and just believing in their couse to an extent that we can't really understand.
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:04 pm

Odly we still are one of the foremost powers in the world. Especially economically speaking. Unfortunatly it does us no good.
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Postby p1nkfl0yd1an on Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:22 pm

Never mind that it's the most common name in the entire world.
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Postby Bema on Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:27 pm

ad_hominem wrote:Obviously it was over-zealous from our point of view, but we have to remember the west has a huge cultural difference to the Middle East.


Sudan is in Africa.

And yeah I'd still say we're a significant world power. Athlete correctly identifies our economic strength but we shouldn't forget about our cultural influence and our military. We have one of the best trained and competent armed forces on the planet. Just a shame they're under-funded. And culturally - well. Language is a fairly obivious one here, so is sport (Football, Rugby, Cricket etc). Alot of countries around the world also use British style legal systems, government systems, educational systems + economic practices.

And when I first saw the BBC article "Sudan demo over jailed UK teacher" I thought they were protesting about the fact she had been jailed over such a trivial matter. But alas - they've gone the other way. Disapointing.
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Postby ad_hominem on Fri Nov 30, 2007 5:41 pm

Bema wrote:
ad_hominem wrote:Obviously it was over-zealous from our point of view, but we have to remember the west has a huge cultural difference to the Middle East.


Sudan is in Africa.


Yeah, sorry, I got caught up in my point about Israel, and my mind got kind of sidetracked.:lol:

And the England thing was a joke really. I know we're a world power, it just doesn't feel like it most of the time.
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Postby Habboi on Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:00 pm

This is so silly that I did the same thing and called my teddy Muhammad. I also wrote it on his shirt and put it in my car. That'll show them!

But seriously this is just those politicians trying to show who's the boss.
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Postby Mango on Fri Nov 30, 2007 7:35 pm

It's ridiculous I know. But it's a foreign country and subject to foreign laws. I love the BBC showing footage of that guy with a blade, "quick zoom in on the angry looking guy!".
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