Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby BlekksPoncho on Tue Jan 29, 2008 10:30 pm

I only have about 30 seconds to write this, there is so much more I would like to contribute to the discussion but just don't have the time.

All I can say for now is, if humans became immortal, there would be so many more killings of political leaders and dictators as mentioned before, as well as between gangs and even just civilians such as neighbours.

Also, risks would become obsolete, you could take all the drugs you wanted, and without risks life is boring and would have no meaning.

Also, wouldn't there be so many more suicides? People would get tired of life, have breakdowns etc. Life would be slow, boring and depressing, you just wouldn't want to live anymore...so I'm for immortality! Just joking, I think it would be extremely bad for individuals and societies, even if life was just prolonged to, say 300 years.

Overcrowding, aggravated relationships (countries and individuals), lethargy, depression, suicide.

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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby Russ1anPwn on Tue Feb 05, 2008 3:14 am

I think that all the killing will get old after a few hundred thousand years.....
If population growth is slowed down or cut off( as it will eventually have to be) who determines which generation is fit for immortality? Future generations may have more to contribute to humanity as a whole than the ones that achieve immortality.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby Posessed on Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:02 pm

If you'd live forever you'd eventually just go mad and kill yourself methinks.
Life is limited for a reason.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby zombie@computer on Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:15 pm

Posessed wrote:If you'd live forever you'd eventually just go mad and kill yourself methinks.
Life is limited for a reason.

unless you believe in intelligent design or crap like that, thats a very silly thing to say
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby Dead-Inside on Thu Feb 07, 2008 11:54 am

zombie@computer wrote:
Posessed wrote:If you'd live forever you'd eventually just go mad and kill yourself methinks.
Life is limited for a reason.

unless you believe in intelligent design or crap like that, thats a very silly thing to say


Agreed.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby The Wanderer on Thu Feb 07, 2008 12:18 pm

Posessed wrote:If you'd live forever you'd eventually just go mad and kill yourself methinks.
Life is limited for a reason.

euhm, how can you know for a certainty that we would go mad? If i could live forever without major side effects (like deteriating brains) i would certainly want to live forever.

life is limited for a reason? Well if you find one, feel free to share it with us.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby Meotwister on Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:14 pm

Despite whether or not some of us want to live forever, looking at the idea it probably is good we dont live forever or have non-aging bodies. We all know how one generation has its own experiences and gets stuck in its ways and therefore has no interest in change.

Think of any generation and just imagine that one generation continuing on for even something like 300 years. Seems to me that progress would slow down to a lull. People would have such an preemptive notion of each other and there would be really rigid lines of thought and political alliances (in and out of government).

As for going mad from living forever, it's certainly plausible and likely in a lot of cases. Of course not everyone is the same therefore not everyone will go suicidal come their 325th birthday. I think though there would be a greater sense of 'whats the point' to a lot of people because of a lack of change. Faces and people you know stop changing and there goes the idea of progressing time and passing on to a new generation and make things better for our children.

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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby oomomo on Thu Feb 07, 2008 1:26 pm

Posessed wrote:If you'd live forever you'd eventually just go mad and kill yourself methinks.
Life is limited for a reason.


i have to disagree with that :P. the reason life is limited is not an intelligent or rational reason(i wonder if i'm using the correct terms here :P ). it is limited due to... the "physics" of this world.

and about killing yourself... i have to agree with you, though it's not actually madness :D. everyone gets bored. its a feeling every human understands. assuming you've done everything possible in this world(you would have enough time to do that) then assuming you got fed up for repeating and repeating everything possible, you'd certainly get bored. so when an eternal man kills himself, it's called boredom.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby RobQ on Thu Feb 07, 2008 3:47 pm

list of hypothetical problems, problems, doesn't sound right, problems, what-ifs, problems

I'm sure they're solvable. Even if it takes 500 years each. It only took 66 years to turn the Wright Flyer into a manned Lunar lander - because we wanted to. It's good to think ahead and list likely problems, but everyone please stop with the whole "it's not possible" or "it's no use trying" lines. Try rephrasing your objections as "this will be hard" or "this will take a long time" or "this will soak up a lot of resources". And "I don't know" is always a good answer, despite what your teachers might have told you.

If you want to convince me of something, try "our limited budget would be best used on <X> instead, because of <Y>".
Think of any generation and just imagine that one generation continuing on for even something like 300 years. Seems to me that progress would slow down to a lull.

This topic does interest me a lot. I always think of my aunts and uncles, when I see them I'm reminded of just how incredibly racist they are. Blatant. In your face, laughing with each other. I don't know how to change them or if they can change.

And to flip the coin to the other side, I imagine one day someone's telling me my ideas are old fashioned and useless, unfounded, behind the times. Will I fairly re-evaluate myself and make a change if needed? I don't want to be my aunts and uncles on some other topic.
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Re: Immortal Jellyfish DNA in Humans

Postby CrowbarSka on Fri Feb 22, 2008 4:17 pm

RobQ wrote:And of course the human liver can already regenerate.


Hallelujah!!

I'm off to the pub.
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