conspiracies

[jister]

oh man i'm hooked on these things! and as i see it our history is full of it, if it isn't one big conspiracy all together!!!
well one of the nice ones is Hitlers rise, that was financially supported by the biggest western banks and companies.
the most famous one off course being Grandpa Prescott Bush or Ford but also The Warburg family and the Rothshild's where putting enormous amounts of money is the little mustached guy. a little detail mostly missed in history class.
and if you think about it: how can the poorest country in Europe assemble the strongest European army in a couple of years?
an other funny fact is that Rockefeller's standard oil company kept providing Hitler's troops with fuel all trough out the war!? without this gas Hitlers army would have come to a full stop
I can go on and on with examples... just thought i trow this in here.

[RC-1290]

If you want to see a video with a nice collection and combination of conspiracies, you should watch Zeitgeist. Its a little bit boring, but quite interesting. Take everything they say with a grain of salt though, but you should always do that when talking about conspiracies (or politics... or religion...or anything else)

[MELVIn]

I've always been a fan of conspiracies (Even though I know the world is not nearly as exciting as most people wish it was)

UFOs: The greatest story ever denied is a good watch. And also Zeitgeist that RC linked.

Loose change is one of the more famous ones roaming the webs also.

But just remember when you all watch this; The world is NOT this exciting. It's all about good storytelling and being able to make people believe what you want them to believe

[jister]

I've always been a fan of conspiracies (Even though I know the world is not nearly as exciting as most people wish it was)

UFOs: The greatest story ever denied is a good watch. And also Zeitgeist that RC linked.

Loose change is one of the more famous ones roaming the webs also.

But just remember when you all watch this; The world is NOT this exciting. It's all about good storytelling and being able to make people believe what you want them to believe

well am afraid if you dig a bit deeper into history the world is a much more "exciting" place then they teach you at school.
as for 9/11 (i knew i couldn't escape that one starting a theard like this) there is enough proof to doubt the official version. i for one do belief there are huge cover ups involved in this by the bush administration.

an other one worth looking into is the Kosovo war, where it was partially admitted by US spokesmen that it was 'a right doing of a mistake made by Gen Eisenhower during WW2' also did America tell UN officials they wanted Kosovo to be an independent nation ASAP. and tada a few years later the US is totally supporting the Kosovo call for independence based on apparently no good reason? now i'm wondering if the balkan oil has something to do with that...?

and BTW melvin is right about one thing! don't just blindly believe these video's, search for official proof yourself... things like "family jewel's" a official release of the cia about past cover ups...
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB222/index.htm

[irt3hnubpie]

an other one worth looking into is the Kosovo war, where it was partially admitted by US spokesmen that it was 'a right doing of a mistake made by Gen Eisenhower during WW2' also did America tell UN officials they wanted Kosovo to be an independent nation ASAP. and tada a few years later the US is totally supporting the Kosovo call for independence based on apparently no good reason? now i'm wondering if the balkan oil has something to do with that...?

Yes, it might be because of American influence, but if you read up about the ex-Yugoslavia war, I think every nation has a right to become independent from Serbia, they committed war crimes; mass genocide. If your people were being killed by another ethnic group, would you want to stay in their country? I think not. I think Kosovo has every right to become a sovereign nation, because of American interference or not.

[jister]

an other one worth looking into is the Kosovo war, where it was partially admitted by US spokesmen that it was 'a right doing of a mistake made by Gen Eisenhower during WW2' also did America tell UN officials they wanted Kosovo to be an independent nation ASAP. and tada a few years later the US is totally supporting the Kosovo call for independence based on apparently no good reason? now i'm wondering if the balkan oil has something to do with that...?

Yes, it might be because of American influence, but if you read up about the ex-Yugoslavia war, I think every nation has a right to become independent from Serbia, they committed war crimes; mass genocide. If your people were being killed by another ethnic group, would you want to stay in their country? I think not. I think Kosovo has every right to become a sovereign nation, because of American interference or not.

well Horst Grabert (former ambassador of Germany)said the following, that "Yugoslavia had functioned as a cover up for the real reason of the US, which was getting a step further in the agenda of establishing a New World Order" so the news (read propaganda) we get in the west is very debatable.
the fact that on 18 march 1992 Izetbegovic, Karadzic and Boban signed a treaty (in the name of the Muslim, Serbian and Croatian people) to avoid a civil war. proves that there was an opportunity to settle it peacefully. if it wasn't for Warren Zimmerman (US ambassador in Yugoslavia) who talked Izetbegovic (representing the Muslim community) out of it.
an other fact that provides more insight is a quote from Zbigniew Brzezinski (former security adviser of President Jimmy Carter) "Most importantly Europe is a geopolitical connection point on the Eurasian continent. As energy consumption will dramatically enhance in the coming 2 to 3 decennia. It is well known that Central-Asia and the Kaspian basin have a gas and oil stock, putting Kuwait, the Golf of Mexico and the Nord-sea in a shade." (translated from dutch so sorry if it's messy).
The Nato bombings where in fact a crime against humanity, and the humanitarian intervention was an excuse to start a war for control over the resources of the Balkan. As you see often now a days... Human Rights and the spreading of democracy (read economical power) being used to wage war.

[jister]

If you want to see a video with a nice collection and combination of conspiracies, you should watch Zeitgeist. Its a little bit boring, but quite interesting. Take everything they say with a grain of salt though, but you should always do that when talking about conspiracies (or politics... or religion...or anything else)

saw the movie and it was quite well made, which was a pleasure, compared to some other video's on these topics out there.
it's also a very nice chronology of facts that gave quite a convincing view in the end, although there wasn't much in there i didn't already knew, it sure is a recommendation to a all people interested in an other view about whats going on these past deccenia and where it eventually may lead.

a plan i'm thinking about for a long time is to start and try to get a law past in my country (Belgium) that prohibits the government to force a chip onto (or into) people.
wish me good luck

[Mr. Happy]

Found out some more of the Illuminati/NWO conspiracy last night. (I rarely look into this so it's already well known )

It's not a big thing, but did you know that all the big republicans and conservatives from around the world who control governments and economies get together once a year to burn an effigy representing human sacrifice in front of a fifty foot owl statue while wearing dark red KKK style robes and chanting, and then go run around in the woods naked?

After that they go to bed, wake up, and plot world domination around the breakfast table.

[MELVIn]

It's not a big thing, but did you know that all the big republicans and conservatives from around the world who control governments and economies get together once a year to burn an effigy representing human sacrifice in front of a fifty foot owl statue while wearing dark red KKK style robes and chanting, and then go run around in the woods naked?

After that they go to bed, wake up, and plot world domination around the breakfast table.

We 'lopers should totally get together and do that once a year!

[punky]

It's not a big thing, but did you know that all the big republicans and conservatives from around the world who control governments and economies get together once a year to burn an effigy representing human sacrifice in front of a fifty foot owl statue while wearing dark red KKK style robes and chanting, and then go run around in the woods naked?

After that they go to bed, wake up, and plot world domination around the breakfast table.

We 'lopers should totally get together and do that once a year!

Yay Interlopers is going to rule the world!
Literally...

[jister]

Found out some more of the Illuminati/NWO conspiracy last night. (I rarely look into this so it's already well known )

It's not a big thing, but did you know that all the big republicans and conservatives from around the world who control governments and economies get together once a year to burn an effigy representing human sacrifice in front of a fifty foot owl statue while wearing dark red KKK style robes and chanting, and then go run around in the woods naked?

After that they go to bed, wake up, and plot world domination around the breakfast table.

lol yes i know,it's called Bohemian Grove (the place they do it) and is strongly secured. the burning is an ancient Babylonic/Hebrew ritual to the goddess Lillith, (not Moloch as many belief, not that it would make any diffenrence lol) represented by an owl. They use to sacrifice children to her by burning them alive, she's also known as a sort of vampire (or is at least the first one ever associated with vampirism).

anyway nice get together for guy who rule the world...? especially for guys like Bush who claim to be born again Christians??

AND YES WE SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR LOPERS! Let's build some maps where we can preform rituals online!! I would love to see a project like that!

BTW some nice site on topics like these;
http://www.freepressinternational.com
http://www.infowars.com/index.html

[Mr. Happy]

YES

INTERLOPERS SECRETZ SOCIETIYZ?

[Mango]

America, Martial Law is coming. No one is laughing now. http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6276 http://mediaverse-memphis.blogspot.com/ ... mpact.html live free or die

[Elv02]

America, Martial Law is coming. No one is laughing now. http://www.blacklistednews.com/view.asp?ID=6276 http://mediaverse-memphis.blogspot.com/ ... mpact.html live free or die

Holy shit... That's not good... Those poor people, alot of them are probably innocent.

[Zhuangzi]

It's tough because there are some real esoteric lineages of power, knowledge, and ritual permeating history, but they get so muddled with myth and conspiracy that it's impossible to discern the fantasy from reality

I love a good conspiracy theory now and then, but I try not to indulge. However I do believe that fiction is the road to reality. So inasmuch as I don't believe the conspiracy theories, I still love them.

On a side-note, I really don't consider businessmen's unscrupulous wartime acts as conspiracies (because they're real ). For instance, Coca Cola was banned from selling their product to Germany during the war because it was an American company. So they set up a proxy company called Fanta that continued selling tasty soda to Hitler's armies. It's interesting, and it evokes an emotion along the lines of the 9/11 conspiracy, but I put it in a different category. If you lump everything together, putting the Bush family's connections in with alien abductions for instance, then you lose all credibility of whatever REAL facts you had to begin with.

Speaking of awesome documentaries, No End In Sight is the best one I've seen in a while that is almost completely driven by interviews from government officials who played some part in the Iraq War. No annoying narrations by Michael Moore to get the sympathy vote or outrageous speculation like Loose Change, but just what really happened in the first few months of the war that helped everything go downhill so quickly.

Oh, and you guys didn't know about the Interlopers secret society? You just think I'm a new member