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[Mr. Happy]

Learn to read Meotwister, the rebuttal is old. The current bill is posted higher up on the site

Who cares about the other side? Me. But not on this issue. There is absolutely no reason to have this. The only legitimate reason is for librarians and educators, however, fair use already gives them the ability to do so. No one is gonna arrest a teacher for showing slides of artwork.

Seriously now, there are many reasons not to have this legislation pass, and there is not a single even slgihtly halfway ok reason to have it pass.

There is no reason to take a closer look, though I have, just as there is simply no reason for this legislation to exist.

That's the point. There are no reasons for it, but plenty of reasons against it, and people in our country don't care about anything anymore.

[zombie@computer]

And no Z@C, once again, your idiocy and apathy has blinded you to the ramifications. If you, or anyone else in the world makes something, than people in the USA can take it, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jesus fucking christ, maybe it really is time to leave this shit hole country.

calm down and pull that pole out of your ass, its affecting your brain. And stop talking about Jesus masturbating, im sure hes got a load of virgins from all the arabs sent to hell instead of heaven. ahem

USA copyright law is not the same as international law. International copyrights conventions state that creation of something implicitly gives you copyright. No matter what the USA does, no matter the rules in the USA, what I make is automatically copyrighted by the most amazing creature in the universe: me. Calling copyright over something that already is copyrighted is not possible, thus international things are always covered. Oh and sorry for not caring about the USA, i shouldve known your mind cannot comprehend.

[vcool]

Jesus fucking christ, the apathy among my fellow USA'ers is disgusting. How they hell can you guys not take five second out of your day to try adn stop this shit?

Seriously, I'm digusted and dissappointed. Specially by comments like vcool's and Vivi's. What the hell guys, "going to work on it at my job" ?? AND? This is wrong, and if we let the government do shit like this, they will go farther and farther and farther.

If you think this won't affect you, there's and so don't do anything there are two outcomes: 1. your an idiot adn will get stepped on. 2. someone else will.

If you don't think that there are hundreds of companies out there that won't take advantage of this, your either one of the stupidest people in the world, or have simply never left your house, never turned on the TV, never been on the internet, and never had any other kind of contact with society.

Wake the fuck up people, take ten god damn seconds to send a form letter to your representative adn work to stop this shit. It affects all of us, and I don't care if you haven't made "anything good" what if you do later? What if you eventually want to get a job doing this? And what if yuo DO have a job doing this, Mr. Vivi, sounds like fun giving Raven the opportunity to rape you. AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THE WORLD. If this passes, I'm taking everyone USA'ers on here's portfolio's and stealing it, because you were all too stupid to protect yourselves.

And no Z@C, once again, your idiocy and apathy has blinded you to the ramifications. If you, or anyone else in the world makes something, than people in the USA can take it, and there's nothing you can do about it.

Jesus fucking christ, maybe it really is time to leave this shit hole country.

Well I apologize for not caring what goes on 7,000 kilometers away from me. If I lived there, yes, I'd care. Don't get me wrong - I think it's absolutely stupid and disgusting. But since I am living in Germany right now, it doesn't touch me.

[Meotwister]

Learn to read Meotwister, the rebuttal is old. The current bill is posted higher up on the site

I'll admit I didn't see the update post that had the bill, but please don't be so callous in a serious discussion thread.

I want to say I'm not supporting the bill but I want people to make an informed decision on it.. not loaded up by some organization that says, "Hey, we got the information, we interpreted it, we did all the thinking for you now listen to us and react!" I dislike it when either side gets so riled up with their opinion, even though they've read up a bit on the subject they encourage others to just listen to them and join me and not read up on it from objective sources.

If you guys want to make the best decision for yourself and not what other people say you should do, read the 'summary' of the bill on Pat Leahy's government website here. The summary is the 3rd section The Shawn Bentley Orphan Works Act of 2008, though the previous sections are good to read as well.

Mr. Happy from what I've read it seems like the whole reason for the bill is that there are many orphaned works that corporations or businesses want to use but can't because they don't want to risk the possibility of statutory damages of up to $150,000. If a good faith infringer, uses your work than you can get compensation before any litigation. Supposing you don't agree with the infringer on the compensation you can litigate it and then the corporation has to provide documentation of their qualified search (as determined in individual circumstances by the courts).

*interesting side note is the Copyright Office has to make publicly available a statements of best practices that have ways of finding the original artists such as electronic databases, private registries, Copyright Office records, and more*

The corporation could then assert a right to limitation on remedies, in which this case the court could end up compensating the owner of the artwork, unless the infringer was a non-profit organization like an educational institution, public broadcast entity, museum, library, archive AND the infringer can show the usage of the work was not for commercial advantage and was primarily educational, religious, or charitable in nature.

Plus things like Derivative Works and Fair Use are still protected under this.

All taken from the official summary not a blog or partisan organization website.

[nub]

Ok so then this bill is not really going to be passed?

Then why is this thread still active? The bill was the topic of this thread, correct? The bill is dead, correct? THEN SO SHALL THIS THREAD BE!