If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

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Would you view the US as..

More favorable
51
65%
still favorable
6
8%
still hate it
12
15%
more unfavorable
9
12%
 
Total votes : 78

If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby joe_dirt976 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:49 pm

NO FLAMING, if you're gonna go ranting off like a 12 year old do it somewhere else.
Okay, I'm curious to know what you all think, yes I know we've had quite a questionable administration and on top of that, one huge rotting pile that we call "free press."
Anyways, if Obama were elected, would you really change your view on America or would you gradually base it on the the decisions they make?
So let the discussion begin...
-edit-and to be more specific, i mean the US as a people in general, not the government.. even the majority of us[the US] are displeased.. if not ashamed of this administration.

Also, I did a search for something like this and couldn't find it, so if it already exists can any of the mods please close this thread.
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*crap... just saw serious discussion, can this thread be moved to its appropriate place.. sorry, tired*
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Elv02 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:52 pm

I went for still hate it as in a hate the U.S.'s damn government. They don't know how to run a country let alone take care of their people. Obama might be slightly better then Bush.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby 1447 on Fri Jun 06, 2008 11:57 pm

Personally, I think Obama will do a better job than Bush. However, I think a blind kangaroo with one leg would do a better job than Bush. The question here is: How much better than Bush will Obama be?

I voted "More favourable", but who knows, Obama might turn out to be just nothing more than another bag of crap... He is a politician, after all...
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Biological-Bum on Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:09 am

I personally think Obama will do a better job than McCain and a much better job than Bush. I'm hoping for the best right now. Perhaps he'll actually do better than expected and fix some of the things Bush screwed up on.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby whiffen on Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:18 am

I like Obama. His views seem to be in order for the most part (I haven't seen or heard of anything negative about him, other than "He is too young and inexperienced" but he seems to be a good guy ;D), and he is promising change. He also comes from a much different background and has experienced hardships in his life, and frankly I believe because of that he will care more for the people. Its funny that even though I'm Canadian I think were all more interested in the elections down south then up here xD

Not that I am against Hilary, shes been fighting hard and I think she will continue to the very end and I wouldn't mind her becoming president, but I always get this feeling like she would stab me.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Biological-Bum on Sat Jun 07, 2008 12:26 am

We know now that It's Obama against McCain. The most Hillary can do now is back Obama or perhaps be chosen to be Vice President (although unlikely).
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Mr. Happy on Sat Jun 07, 2008 3:33 am

Hillary is officially dropping out and announcing her support for Obama tommorow at noon, in case you haven't heard.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby stoopdapoop on Sat Jun 07, 2008 5:15 am

well I live in the states, so I won't vote (in this survey).

But Obama has a good past. His fight is a good one, and I like most of his answer's to the questions he gets asked.

Obviously there's a bit of trying to appeal to the masses in every candidate, and as I see it, there has to be, and Obama's a very smart man, and has he learned in one of his previous campaigns, he can't just get up on stage and talk sense to everyone, people don't like that.

But yeah, whether or not he'd make a better president than Bush is a dumb question, a better question is "would he make a good president" and I think the answer is yes. And if you read up it's apparent that the man bright, willing to learn, and isn't trigger happy.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Dionysos on Sat Jun 07, 2008 10:28 am

I guess we wont really know what he is all about or how he is going to perfom until hes in office. Which Im quite certain he will be.

Also, wheres the true same as before choice? Because I dont really "still hate" and I dont really "still favor".
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Sacul15 on Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:44 am

If he were to be elected, Americans' faith in the government would probably increase, since he has a popular (though vague and ambiguous, imho) message. But then again, the same would probably happen with McCain as well if he were elected, since most Americans just want Bush to be gone. I personally prefer McCain to Obama, so I would be somewhat doubtful for a while if Obama got into office. I'm just gonna hope the Reps get control of Congress, since most of Obama's plans (such as universal health care, <shudders>) have to go through them. The only major promise he could fulfill is pulling out of Iraq, but that is starting to matter less and less to me, since most of the Democrats just want to give up, and most of the Republicans want to keep throwing money at a failing plan to help the Iraqi people, when we should be there to kill terrorists and make America safer.





I'm so sick of politics...wake me up in November.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby zombie@computer on Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:55 am

Obama looks like a guy who promises heaven but delivers a Dell...
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby whiffen on Sun Jun 08, 2008 7:34 am

Whats wrong with universal health-care?
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Rasky_26 on Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:17 am

For me I favor Obama. I feel lucky that I go to college in Iowa (the first state to nominate representatives every election for those that don't know) so its a hot-spot for all the presidential-hopefuls. I had the opportunity to go to the speeches of Edwards, Obama, McCain, Clinton, and Romney (*shudders at Romney*) and had to opportunity to ask almost all of them a question or two first-hand.

First off, I just want to clarify that I think our biggest crisis is the environment (not just global warming, but dumping in the oceans, pesticides, mercury levels, all that fun crap) and that that is a urgent issue that needs to be addressed as soon as possible. Now I'm not a tree-hugger, but as a student in atmospheric science its allowed me to take a critical look at our planet and its current disposition, and determine its trends and the effects on the world if the trends continue; so far the trends are showing negative repercussions.

In my chance to talk with the candidates, I found Obama being the most progressive towards steering away from conventional fuel sources and pushing for better, renewable sources. Though I also liked Edwards as he wanted to run the White House with the least influence from corporate conglomerates, he sadly didn't make the cut. However, if Obama were elected, it would symbolize a good step of progress in our country (hopefully the symbolism will carry over into action) as he would be the first president that wasn't an old white guy.
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Sorrow on Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:00 am

I think he's going to get shot by some redneck and that'll put your country back to third world status.
Would it change my view of the US? Well if he sits out his term and things around the world change for the better I guess it would. -oh sorry no flaming-
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Re: If Obama were elected... [no flaming]

Postby Lobstar on Sun Jun 08, 2008 12:08 pm

Hurrm well if the US stop terrorising innocent people then i might think better of them. And if they would lay off that god thing and stop beeing so fucking delutional.
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