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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby joe_dirt976 on Sat Jun 20, 2009 5:48 pm

afghanistan has the second largest oil field? I'm sorry but I thought the country we went after was afghanistan.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby Chipmunk on Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:00 pm

Yeah but so so many people were against the Iraq war and it went ahead. If the goverment wanted to go to war without the whole 9/11 fiasco they could of. If the goverment convinced the relevant people to go to war with little evidence of weapons they could do the same without 9/11.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby joe_dirt976 on Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:05 pm

i'm gonna go off on a limb here, and say that it wasn't so much falsified as much as it was rushed. [the intel] We've all played rushed games before and their quality sucks, so whats any different when applying that logic elsewhere? It was just a great big clusterfuck, and the SECDEF at the time was a raving jackass.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby Sacul15 on Sat Jun 20, 2009 6:09 pm

Imports from Iraq have remained relatively stable since 2003 and significantly decreased since 2001 (source). The invasion was never about oil. It was about stopping a man who we thought to have WMDs and who we thought might try to provide our enemies with them in the future. There was no conspiracy, only bad intelligence and bureaucratic failure and a hasty administration.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby poisonic on Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:21 pm

the modern american goverment wants to controll people with media,propaganda,terrorism,fear.....
there are some documents around the world.... america is the wolf in sheep clothes.....
in 15 years if noting happens america is gonna be a 3rd world country and a military state....

and to sad to say but the biggest weapon producer is america..... if theres no war going on its bad for the american economy

i did not mention a large oilfield in afganistan i only mentiont the big oil pipe that runs trough afganistan.......
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby poisonic on Sat Jun 20, 2009 10:31 pm

Sacul15 wrote:It was about stopping a man who we thought to have WMDs and who we thought might try to provide our enemies with them in


So fulish if you have the big $$$$$ you can buy weapons :) that counts for al stuf around....
Even with stuf you can get from stores you can blow things up ;) by example vertalizer
wich explodes like hell if you know what you are doing
do you remember the first failed atack on the wtc
the one wich made some extra space in the basement
that was stuf from america.... it just depends on wich person gets the wrong materials ;)
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby coder0xff on Sat Jun 20, 2009 11:14 pm

Honestly, I have doubted the legitimacy of the official story for years. The whole time I've been in the Army even. What the truth is, I don't know. I'd like to know - but I don't believe I ever will know for sure in any case.

Have you ever seen Zeitgeist and Loose Change?
A more broad conspiracy theory documentary: http://www.zeitgeistmovie.com/
Specifically about 9/11: http://loosechange911.com/

Anyway, when I decided that I was dissatisfied with all of this, it just became another part of my grand disenchanted existence. I sat down and seriously considered, "What can I do?" and eventually decided nothing. So you cope with your disappointment in humanity or you remove yourself from it.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby Dionysos on Sun Jun 21, 2009 3:24 pm

Sacul15 wrote:Imports from Iraq have remained relatively stable since 2003 and significantly decreased since 2001 (source). The invasion was never about oil. It was about stopping a man who we thought to have WMDs and who we thought might try to provide our enemies with them in the future. There was no conspiracy, only bad intelligence and bureaucratic failure and a hasty administration.


Why should imports change, really. The price and supply has to be kept stable, and thus the flow of oil. Either way, its the control of the oil that is the important factor as well as having a military presence in the region and, oh, spending huge amounts of money.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby Jim the Hermit on Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:07 pm

We've been trying to get a real investigation for what happened on 9/11 for years. Most people don't believe, others don't want to know the truth. There will be no justice for the crimes committed on that day. At least not in this life.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby cheesemoo0 on Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:34 pm

Seriously? Just let this die.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby MayheM on Thu Aug 27, 2009 9:48 pm

This is a bit off topic but...

I was in an airport ready to fly across the country, from San Fran to New York. It was around The end of August or the beginning of September. As I waited for my plane to start boarding I was watching TV. The had the News on, which there is nothing wrong with that. However they where showing images and videos of the 9/11 attacks. IN A FUCKING AIRPORT!!! I'm sorry but the last thing I want to see when I am flying across the country is anything that makes me think of shit like that...

Anyway, I have lost a lot of faith in the gov. Hearing Senators talk about passing the health care bill even if the people they represent are opposed to it makes me shake my head. I'm not saying I think the gov was involved, but at this point I would not be floored if they were. either way knowing the truth will not change my opinion of where the gov is headed at this point.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby coder0xff on Fri Aug 28, 2009 4:36 pm

cheesemoo0 wrote:Seriously? Just let this die.


It would be much easier to let it die if it were actually dyeing. But it's not. The impact ( lol ) that 9/11 had affects our lives to this day. When our nation is restored to its previous ethics, policies, etc, then we shall.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby zombie@computer on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:22 pm

coder0xff wrote:When our nation is restored to its previous ethics, policies, etc, then we shall.

Things change, get used to it. Those things will never be the same, dont pretend that they can.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby coder0xff on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:26 pm

zombie@computer wrote:
coder0xff wrote:When our nation is restored to its previous ethics, policies, etc, then we shall.

Things change, get used to it. Those things will never be the same, dont pretend that they can.


And we will never stop asking questions.

Edit:
Also, I really mean that as soon as our ethics, policies, etc are restored to their original "quality". Obviously things won't be the same, ever. But things are worse, and that's what I find unacceptable.
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Re: 700 architects calling for a new 9/11 investigation!

Postby atelierz on Fri Aug 28, 2009 5:54 pm

MayheM wrote:This is a bit off topic but...

I was in an airport ready to fly across the country, from San Fran to New York. It was around The end of August or the beginning of September. As I waited for my plane to start boarding I was watching TV. The had the News on, which there is nothing wrong with that. However they where showing images and videos of the 9/11 attacks. IN A FUCKING AIRPORT!!! I'm sorry but the last thing I want to see when I am flying across the country is anything that makes me think of shit like that...



a weird anecdote that this brings up.
where i live, the first break in programming on september 11, 2001, was the simpsons on the local fox channel. it just so happened that the episode on that day was about marge's fear of flying. somebody at the station seems to have caught the inappropriateness of this, as after a commercial break there was a completely different episode on, picked up at the appropriate time as if nothing happened.

what made it even stranger was that it was the episode where homer becomes the leader of the stonecutters (masons)and at one point, he orders the beautification of a rundown building. he and the oft clueless citizens of springfield paint the building sky-blue and seconds later, a helicopter crashes into it.
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