Blasphemy Law in Ireland

[Spike]

@Windlab: That sentence is sarcastic, and I think Nietzsche wanted to say that Jesus was the only one who belived in christian morality and that religion has been biased by people over the years.

Back to the topic, well Poland goverment started an investigation to determine if Tinki Winky (yeah, that thing from the Teletubbies) was gay.

[Dionysos]

@Windlab: That sentence is sarcastic, and I think Nietzsche wanted to say that Jesus was the only one who belived in christian morality and that religion has been biased by people over the years.

Back to the topic, well Poland goverment started an investigation to determine if Tinki Winky (yeah, that thing from the Teletubbies) was gay.

... what?! And I thought I'd seen enough religilous shit the last couple of days.

[Chopium]

I found this radio-clip to be rather informing on the subject.

[Spike]

@Windlab: That sentence is sarcastic, and I think Nietzsche wanted to say that Jesus was the only one who belived in christian morality and that religion has been biased by people over the years.

Back to the topic, well Poland goverment started an investigation to determine if Tinki Winky (yeah, that thing from the Teletubbies) was gay.

... what?! And I thought I'd seen enough religilous shit the last couple of days.

well, that was a couple of years ago. But it caused big lulz among European Parliament and they stoped it

[MayheM]

...however, a bit off topic but sorts the same. I always find it odd to hear the following.
1. "Jesus Christ!!!" from a jewish person. I worked in a Jewish school and it was one of those things that made me scratch my head. I heard it all the time.
2. People who do not believe in God saying "God Damn It!!!" That is just silly.

Those are simply expressions these days. They don't usually have literal meanings when used. Saying "God dammit" is commonly used as an expression of anger or frustration and nothing more. Sometimes I hear my friends say it when they see something crazy happen; like back in the day when we would do all sorts of outdoor shit and one of us did something crazy, one (or more) of us would say "God DAMN!" or "Jesus Christ!"

Some people could use "God dammit" literally, and it wouldn't make sense if that person was atheist or some other religion that doesn't believe in "God". But I have yet to here anyone use it literally.

I guess it doesn't matter, really.


Anyway, I find this law to be rather far-fetched. Was it really passed? That fine is ridiculous; assuming by 25.000 you mean twenty five thousand (I'm told that in Europe you guys use periods instead of commas for numbers). 25 euros wouldn't make it as bad, but 25k is outright insanity for such an insignificant offense.

Though I see what you mean by it is an expression, That does not explain why it became such a commonplace thing to say it. Though I am of the belief saying those kinds of things should only be deemed bad if you actually direct them towards people, like "God Damn You!" that's just not cool. It is more arrogant than anything. Who do they think they are commanding God to damn someone? Like they have some almighty control over the almighty.

Anyway, no matter if you use those terms or not this law reaches far beyond the original definition of Blasphemy. Originally it was taking the lords name in vane. This law wants it to be any insult to someones religion. Saying something in jest about someones religion could break your bank. what is truly silly about this is if I was told i had to pay 100,000 euro because I said Tom Cruse was a twat for thinking alien spirits possess our bodies, I would have to say, sorry don't have it. I just don't see it being enforced...

[BillyDa59]

What this tells me is that some of Ireland's lawmakers have way too much time on their hands. But don't worry, I'm sure they'll come around.

Religion is an abstract thing that drives man info madness.

To which, I respond:

Men talk of the extravagances and frenzies that have been produced by mysticism; they are a mere drop in the bucket. In the main, and from the beginning of time, mysticism has kept men sane. The thing that has driven them mad was logic. ...The only thing that has kept the race of men from the mad extremes of the convent and the pirate-galley, the night-club and the lethal chamber, has been mysticism — the belief that logic is misleading, and that things are not what they seem.

Sorry, but that seems like a terrible quote, if I understand it correctly it is basically saying that its easier to go back to your care bear blanket with it's "god just made it that way" explanations than to actually think about things logically lest they confuse you and drive you "mad". I realize some people get confused and threatened by science and the idea that humans are nothing special and just another animal, but it's seriously time humanity as a whole let go of the teddy bear. Oh, and logic..misleading? only to someone who willfully wants to see patterns where there are none, logic when applied properly is hardly misleading.

Look up cargo cults on Wikipedia. Then come back and tell me that it honestly would've been any better had those people understood what was really going on.