Gulag Schools

[ghost12332]

This is absolutely sick and disgusting. Theres around 650 "Gulag Schools" in the US currently, which legally run under the pretext of "Behavioral modification therapy."

3 Survivor stories of the Diamond Ranch Academy: http://www.heal-online.org/diamond.htm

Good youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNWoVB-jCvY

BMF Wiki Page: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Behavior_m ... n_facility

The staff always seemed ready to remind us they were only 'legally obligated' to provide us with two meals a day. Meals consisted of white rice and/or lentil beans for dinner and (sometimes) lunch. Breakfast was horse oats. and we were occasionally allowed rotten fruit. Spices and seasonings were only allowed twice during these two weeks because we were told we didn't deserve them. We prepared these meals ourselves over a burner. We had to use dirty sticks found on the ground as utensils. If one of us vomited, they were forced to eat another bowl or the result was more group punishment. We were only allowed to bathe and change clothes every two days (if that, during early morning and in freezing cold outdoor 'showers' of course.) We often reminded of our place in the program, being told we were worth less than dirt, etc. The staff would mockingly eat healthy, delicious looking meals from the 'inside' facility and candy bars in our faces to taunt us. When traveling from site to site, we were forced to march and sing marching related cadences at the same time. These were traditional ARMY cadence songs with lyrics adapted to praise and honor the program. If one was caught not singing.. or caught crying from pain, exhaustion, or hunger; more physical and verbal group punishment. Once, the owner's son Robbie Dias, was our staff, just for the day. He set me aside from the group and physically punished me personally by making me do push ups with my hands in sharp rocks until my arms collapsed and then decided it would be a good idea to start screaming in my face; "What's the matter with you ____?!

I don't understand how this shit is still legal in the US, for all its great democratic-policies and government. This is absolutely sick and disgusting and the people doing this should be shot.

[TicTac]

THE FUCK?!

[Major Banter]

Please note that this stuff has literally just come to light.

Also please note Catholic "orphan hostels" in Ireland for the past 2 centuries have been whorehouses and workhouses.

This shit happens. But if people raise a sufficient shitstorm, it's crushed. I can't really offer an opinion, not being American, but I can definitely see what you're saying.

Shooting's too good. Try hanging.

EDIT: Out of curiousity though, what did the "inmates" do? Some things justify this level of punishment.

[popcornjake]

So.....it goes like this?

1. Kid needs help
2. Parents apply them for one of these programs
3. People from program come and (try) take kid away
4. Kid gets sent to camp
5. Kid gets treated unfairly
6. Kid goes home and makes a youtube video
7. I say wtf

[Dr. Delta]

BAD BOYS, BAD BOYS, what you gonne do, what you gonne do when they come for you.

[ghost12332]

Please note that this stuff has literally just come to light.

Also please note Catholic "orphan hostels" in Ireland for the past 2 centuries have been whorehouses and workhouses.

This shit happens. But if people raise a sufficient shitstorm, it's crushed. I can't really offer an opinion, not being American, but I can definitely see what you're saying.

Shooting's too good. Try hanging.

EDIT: Out of curiousity though, what did the "inmates" do? Some things justify this level of punishment.

If the parents are willing to pay the money, you can send a kid there for any reason, because in the US a minor has few rights, and the general minor-rights area is a gray zone.

These also exist in europe, though when the UN ratified childrens rights act, every country BUT the USA signed it, allowing for far harsher treatment in the US.

[Ennui]

Please note that this stuff has literally just come to light.

Also please note Catholic "orphan hostels" in Ireland for the past 2 centuries have been whorehouses and workhouses.

This shit happens. But if people raise a sufficient shitstorm, it's crushed. I can't really offer an opinion, not being American, but I can definitely see what you're saying.

This stuff has not just come to light, it's been around more or less forever - people send their kids to boot camp because they consider them to have problems, whether it is being antisocial, doing drugs, being aggressive, defiant, etc.

People are allowed to do this because parents are in charge of their own children and can legally force them to submit to the rule of such an organization.

This is not an American problem, it happens worldwide, so you are perfectly qualified to offer an opinion. To be fair though, Americans are probably much worse about it on the whole, having to do with the prevalence of fundamentalism and strict, high expectations of moral and social behavior on the part of mostly conservative American parents who are more inclined than most to believe their child has been corrupted / has problems / got the Devil in 'im and as a result turn to drastic measures they feel are warranted, like advanced behavior modification boot camp type shit.

[Pedro]

I believe that a big portion of behavioral problems stem down early. The way parents raise their kids in my opinion, is inconsistent, which is why problems start to arise in later ages. I am Mexican, born and raised in Mexico by my parents in an urban surrounding until I as around four or five. After that, we moved to the United States, and are currently living in a suburban area of Texas. I was raised with 2 rules strictly enforced: Do what your Parents tell you, and do it with no attitude or protest, and second, if you refuse to do what is told onto you, be prepared to face HEAVY discipline. I know, sounds a little...Conservative, is the word? But it works. See, when I came to The States, I was completely astonished at the way these American kids behaved (Not being racist or anything, just telling it from the heart). For example, I once saw a woman, about 35 years old, with her little five year old son. She was telling him that it was time to go in, and made him pick up his scooter or bike, whatever it was. The boy said he didn't want to, and after being told a second time, he started screaming, he turned red, stomped on the ground, and thru his bike scooter thing. I was all like, "Oh man, that little brats gonna get it, ha!" Instead, what happened was that the mother, instead of punishing him, either verbally or physically, (Which I believe is ok, maybe even needed to an extent, as long as it is used in appropriate situations, for a good reason) went into submission mode, and started pleading the kid to go in. As in, "ok, please honey, come on! If you do, you'll get to watch tv!" She tried to grab his hand, but as soon as the kid pulled back, she immediatly gave up, and went inside, probably to find something to reward the boy if he came inside. Instead of punishment, he gets a reward!?!?! And it goes on until the kids a teen, used to be able to control his parents, cursing at them, having his way, whatever. The parents eventually come to their senses, years too late, and are unable to control the child themselves, due to their own stupidity. Unable to control their kid, they do three things: A, They send their kid to the most extreme and possibly, but not always unjust punishment centers, B, The kid does something illegal, parents have to pay for it, and kid has nothing done to him, being a minor and all, or C, the kid takes over the household, and parents die of old age, kicked from their own house into a retirement home, leaving the kid with money. I'm not saying this happens with all Americans, but I see it quite commonly, and I'm sure that this is not exclusive to The States. I might be over exagerating, but it's the truth in most parts. The camps themselves also might take things too far. Or maybe the kids might have mental disorders, not noticable. Another thing is the child abuse laws. It's ironic, they are made to restrain parents from physical punishment. This is supposed to help children, but instead, it's only hurting them. I mean, I understand that you can go too far, and they DO help, but they seem too strict, and in turn scare parents. Kids nowdays might have too many rights for their own good in a way, maybe not enough, in another. This is all coming from a teen, I'm currently 16. Oh the Irony, The building named Society is crumbling from the weight of the additions made onto it to help support itself. America, Nay, the world is doomed to it's own "good" cause as it implodes to nothing but injustice and chaos.

But it's all my convoluted opinion. Perhaps I'm wrong.