TSA's Ridiculous Policies

[Zipfinator]

After reading this article I thought I'd make a thread hear to see the Interloper's opinion on the matter. Do you agree that the TSA's increasingly invasive policies are protecting us while in flight or do you think that many of the policies should be revoked and we should become more responsible for our own safety?

I almost completely agree with the article. The latest policy placed after this incident along with the statistics shown in the Gizmodo article show that these policies aren't really helping us at all. They're just making flying a more stressful and annoying experience. Some of the measures taken are understandable and reasonably easy to follow such as no outside drinks aloud past security. It would be nice if they wouldn't raise the prices in every store past the security checkpoints though.

What are your opinions?

[Dionysos]

Everybody in their right mind will come to that conclusion, being reinforced by statistics, that all those "security policies" only benefit those who sell the hardware necessary. I wouldn't even go as far as saying that they provide a (false) sense of security, since people are a lot more afraid of flying or worry about what might happen than driving cars or even motorcycles and similar "dangerous" activities or risks. All it does is frighten, and scared people are profitable.

Not to mention how ineffectual all those security measures are. It will always be possible to blow up planes, but imo they should rather focus on regular maintenance since that seems to be a far more prominent reason for accidents.
Banning drinks etc is retarded as well. You can mix your own explosives with the stuff you can buy in the Tax Free zone, not to mention a terrorist infiltrating the airport via the tax free shops/area and depositing things there. It's even been shown how the amount of liquid you *are* allowed to take with you can cause quite a bang (take out 1-2 seats if I remember correctly), after all they don't check what you got in there. I hate how some countries the trend is going towards making simple chemistry illegal... (uk and germany, I'm looking at you.)

The annoyance of flying is one of the main reasons I avoid flying as much as possible. Didn't they even mention that as a reason why Chicago didn't get the olympics? (Although one might argue that's good for the environment )

Edit: Oh, and another great aspect of all this is that often the exact security measures and procedures taken are kept secret, leading to passengers not knowing whether security personnel is acting unreasonable and so forth.

There is no other way to interpret it: The TSA is saying clearly that they can't prevent terrorists from getting explosives on airplanes, but by god, they'll make sure those planes only explode when the TSA says it's okay.

Funny anecdote: In an airport in Thailand they had a cubicle where you could "unload your gun" by shooting it into a sandbox. Safety first!

[nub]

I read up on some of this. Kind of ridiculous.

My brother, who lives up in Michigan, texted me on Christmas night saying "Some guy just tried to blow up an airplane in Detroit, but he failsauced and ended up burning himself."

I figured there would be this hype up on security policies...and yeah...pretty typical response.

[zombie@computer]

wuts stopping me from injecting nitroglicerin in by bladder right before flight, then peeing in a cup and igniting it...

You cant stop determined people. You can stop determination.

[srredfire]

wuts stopping me from injecting nitroglicerin in by bladder right before flight, then peeing in a cup and igniting it...

You cant stop determined people. You can stop determination.

That's a good one. One of the best ones I could come up with was bring a CD player, with a CD in it, some random luggage to make you appear normal, and then some electrical or scotch tape. Or duct tape, whatever. In the middle of the flight or whenever, you take out the CD, snap it in half, and wrap tape along the bottom of the half'd CD. Then you instantly have 2 sharp daggers. Granted you couldn't get to the pilot, you could definately stab some people and make some pretty jagged wounds, not to mention them being filled with small sillicone chips and flakes.

[Zabiela]

That terrorist was such a waste of space- he displeased both sides.

[mck567]

wuts stopping me from injecting nitroglicerin in by bladder right before flight, then peeing in a cup and igniting it...

You cant stop determined people. You can stop determination.

THAT'S IT! Before boarding the plane everyone must submit a urine/fecal/blood test. They must also remove any under garments and wear loose fitting clothing.

Problem solved. =D

[Chopium]

We must all be put to sleep by gas for the flight so NO ONE can do ANYTHING AT ALL during the flight. We must also wear jumpsuits with no carry-ons and the luggage goes on a different plane. For our safety, we must trade our freedom.

[MELVIn]

Buy your own airplane. Problem solved.

[mck567]

Buy your own airplane. Problem solved.

FML do real planes work like flight simulator, cuz I own @ flight simulator. =]

[TicTac]

lol mck. The airlines are getting WAY too over the top. Yea, they want to protect us but christ almighty they're probably scaring many people out of flying >.<

[BillyDa59]

The best way to travel by air is without NO carry-on and WITH a gun.

Wait, what did I just say?

That's not a typo. Also, I don't actually mean that you should carry a gun on the plane, so don't do that, however, if you keep a gun in your checked-in luggage, the TSA has to do their luggage examination in front of you AND the bag must be securely locked and no person may open the bag again, from the time it gets locked after the inspection until the bag reaches your hands again. Additionally, if the bag gets lost, airlines will more than likely try to get your bag back to you ASAP, especially if you had a more expensive gun in your luggage. Google the details. There are guides on the net that will explain, step by step, the proper procedure for taking a gun somewhere via air.

And again, don't take a carry on, except maybe something very small and easy for security to screen (a purse or purse-sized object at most. This will make your trip through the security line much faster.

And BAM, that'll be the easiest time you've ever had at the airport. You don't have to fret over your checked-in luggage, and you don't have to worry about dragging a little bag behind you.

[ErikKiller]

And again, don't take a carry on, except maybe something very small and easy for security to screen (a purse or purse-sized object at most. This will make your trip through the security line much faster.

And BAM, that'll be the easiest time you've ever had at the airport. You don't have to fret over your checked-in luggage, and you don't have to worry about dragging a little bag behind you.

Yep. Of course nowadays a "purse" for a woman is a sports-bag for men.

[jgoodroad]

I can't say because the artical was very bias...and I HATE BIAS REPORTING!
...what has happend to good reporting anyways...
but if I was to base my opinion on the assumption that this artical is true, I would say the TSA are a bunch of incompetent fools...

[Major Banter]

I actually quite like the idea of being gassed - no expensive meals, no annoying pressurization, an 11 hour flight will take minutes to you, and the side-effects could be pretty interesting.

Let's see a terrorist organisation find someone who's insusceptible to that shit.

Anyway, virtually everything's full of incompetent fools because only the hyper-educated arse-lickers get into those kind of jobs, then keep them for their own advancement. Which causes stagnation, duplication of jobs and incompetence.

So the easiest fix is to put the TSA's main people through their new system, and drop a quiet email to Al-Qaeda asking them to stock up on syringes, nitro, CDs and loose clothing.