Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby jgoodroad on Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:52 am

The Hollow Night wrote:
jgoodroad wrote:define "substance"


As in any non medical drugs. All the ones we'd consider 'illegal drugs'..(none that are used for medicinal purposes.)


Pot is used for medicine, and clothing, and houses, and is less deadly then alcohol.

still bad, but so is tobacco.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Hollow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 1:59 am

Pot is used for houses?? :? lol
If marijuana is used for medicinal cases where necessary I have not problem with that if it is helping the person, it doesn't mean I should want to start taking it again.
And yeah, I don't smoke :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Spas12 on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:13 am

I respect the ideas of people who choose to live rather pure or substance-free lifestyles. I however, choose to live a different lifestyle. I drink heavily at parties and smoke marijuana habitually with friends and have smoked 21x salvia twice. I don't regret any of it.

I think drinking is quite a normal thing for youth to do, as long as you don't operate machinery while drunk. I also think experimenting with soft drugs is commonplace in todays society as it shows a lot about your personality, mainly accepting the decision to lightly damage some physical aspects of your body for psychological happiness, fulfillment or adventure. I also think of it as a way to satisfy curiosity, meet new people, and share amazing mind-altering moments with close friends. I enjoy both drinking alcohol and smoking marijuana from numerous devices for both the thrill and taste. No matter how much i drink or smoke, i enjoy it and will probably continue to do it for a couple more years. I believe marijuana should definitely be legalized to help aid the thousands of people who can use it for cheaper and more accessible medicinal purposes as well as creating much needed federal revenue and jobs, lowering crime rates, and allowing the safe growing and transportation of it.

As for behavior, I advise people to smoke and drink but don't force people to do. I find it a recreational and soothing way to deal with stress or other negative impacts in your life. I have two close friends who drink heavily but have never smoked anything in their life (although one of which who sells it daily but doesn't smoke it), and i respect that decision. My parents have consumed marijuana in their youth as well as some of my friends parents. One of my friends parents continues to smoke it today and knows their kids do it as well. Hell, one of my friends got a everything-about-marijuana book for Christmas this year from his mom. Some of my friends parents completely oppose the consumption of it and have grounded their kids numerous times because of it. Some parents let their kids do it, some parents completely oppose it. My parents would probably kill me if they find out i smoked or drank, but i don't care, its my decision. As for spending money, i do spend some money on drinking and smoking, but not as nearly as much as all my other friends. I am actually a 17 year old virgin though, but that doesn't bother me that much. I respect women a lot more then my friends do. Most of my friends fuck like they take viagra by the hour, but don't scorn me for being a virgin. It'll happen when it happens is what i say.

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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby jgoodroad on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:18 am

The Hollow Night wrote:Pot is used for houses?? :? lol
If marijuana is used for medicinal cases where necessary I have not problem with that if it is helping the person, it doesn't mean I should want to start taking it again.
And yeah, I don't smoke :lol:


kemp (aka marijuana) is a good alternative to lumber and cotton.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Hollow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:26 am

Nice post Spas :D
It's cool to get the polar opposite viewpoint of the topic. Though I may not totally agree with you advising people to do that stuff (as i never advise people to stop), as long as you are not pressuring them into anything it's fine.
We all know your tendencies though so its no surprise to get this insight of your lifestyle :lol:
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Hollow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:29 am

jgoodroad wrote:
The Hollow Night wrote:Pot is used for houses?? :? lol
If marijuana is used for medicinal cases where necessary I have not problem with that if it is helping the person, it doesn't mean I should want to start taking it again.
And yeah, I don't smoke :lol:


kemp (aka marijuana) is a good alternative to lumber and cotton.


Isnt that.....Hemp? I wiki'd it just now as I knew it was related to marijuana, but had no clue on its industrial purposes...
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby TicTac on Fri Feb 26, 2010 2:59 am

The Hollow Night wrote:Alchee-hol, Hehe, that made me giggle :P

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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Dionysos on Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:17 am

I would like to mention that both alcohol and pot have an effect on peoples brains (even though many believe it's the same as smoking). I have both experienced it with friends (sadly) and read medicinal litterature (friends who study pharmacie), among other personal sources.

Alchohol and drugs have, however, always been a part of human culture, and for a couple of good reasons. There are indications that beer came before bread, and actually lead to making bread. It can change your viewpoint, and it forges connections between people/groups, especially among those who would otherwise find it hard to connect with others (for whatever reasons).

Basically, don't fuck yourself up. All in good measure, there's a "golden path" as the buddhists say. Though of course some substances just aren't even worth trying since there is a high risk of permanent brain damage after first-time use (such as for instance ecstasy or crack). Also, a lot of drinking during youth is especially dangerous as the brain isn't as capable of filtering out the alcohol, and especially the chemical processes of sobering up (restoring the balance in brain chemistry, glutamate and serotonin are important factors here in case anyone wants to google it) can leave you with long-term damage (damaging your memory, decision-making due to damage to the frontal lobes).

Anyways, I love beer and wine, occasionally. Sleep deprivation can also have interesting effects :D
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Hollow on Fri Feb 26, 2010 3:25 am

Yeah, i remember my dad telling me one time about how his best friend ages back tried crack once, and pretty much instantly ruined her life. She became a completely different person after one hit, I dont think he ever saw her since...pretty worrying really.

That was the only real forewarning my parents really laid down, was to stay away from the hard drugs.

I never was a beer person when i drank. I was more into cider or whisky/brandy haha. I used to drink JD all the time to the point where drinking doubles tasted the same as a single. I had a sniff of the stuff a few weeks back at a house party we had and i nearly wretched...cant believe how strong it smelt! Certainly didn't make me want to drink it again :lol:

off topic, since you mentioned sleep deprivation. I suffer from insomnia occasionally. That shit fucks you up big time.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby jgoodroad on Fri Feb 26, 2010 4:34 am

well, I would like to point out. If you smoke, drink, do drugs, have sex, ride motorcycles, eat, sleep, climb mountains, juggle chainsaws, or smoke while drunk and high, when you are juggling chainsaws ontop of a mountain in a rainstorm, there is a chance you could die.

let that be clear.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby nub on Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:11 am

I don't deal with substances and I never will. I was fortunate enough to not have hung around a lot of kids that did them, so peer pressure was never an issue for me. My sister called me to her room earlier today in fact and she was holding a bong and asked me if I wanted to try weed for the first time and I responded with a solid no. I've never had weed despite the numerous chances I've been faced with to actually try it.

The only "substances" I've taken in are a few cigarettes and barely any beer. Cigarettes made me almost puke and I hate the taste of beer or any other alcoholic drink for that matter, so by my logic I don't like drinking nor smoking. Weed also has this disgusting smell to it that also helps put me off from ever trying it. My sister's room stunk of it earlier today but she was "fortunate" enough to get rid of the stench. I almost gagged when I walked in to her room before that though.

Any other drugs are a given. I won't even think about trying them since there's no benefits to them and possible damages are limitless. I don't see how people can smoke. Like, honestly, it's DISGUSTING. I don't know how many kids at school I'd walk by and they simply reeked of tobacco. It was amazing that they were never caught and suspended for that, but I guess they knew how to hide their cigarettes. Plenty of kids have gone to school high as a kite too, which is funny as hell to see, but also the dumbest shit you could possibly do.


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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Kremator on Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:27 am

I don't do hard drugs and I've quit weed and smoking a long time ago. However I retain my habit of drinking, it's great fun when you do it with your actual friends, meaning people who don't judge - a few of my memorable nights includes some form of drinking. I've tried weed and ecstasy and never did any cocaine or meth, possibly never will.

I believe one can tread a fine line between enjoying life and destroying one and my family embraces the spirit of enjoying a little vice now and then - my dad drinks wine on a weekly basis and he is doing pretty good for his age. Ultimately I believe in having good fun (but not necessarily clean), when you think too much about what you can't or shouldn't do you missed out all the great things you could be doing.

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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby whiffen on Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:34 am

My situation is much like you nub. My friends and I never really got into drugs, we will drink sometimes but nothing major. I just don't feel compelled to do it, my brother smokes marijuana everyday and offers it to me and I too reply no thanks xD

It's not that I'm scared of doing it for the consequences or anything, which I know there isn't much with marijuana. I just don't feel any desire or interest in doing so at all. I like to remain in my state of mind I guess aha.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Corigami on Fri Feb 26, 2010 5:57 am

Beyond a very mild curiosity I don't see any attraction to ever using drugs or alcohol. I'm perfectly happy without them and considering the negative, albeit mild effects, they aren't worth trying in my opinion.
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Re: Thoughts on A Substance-Free Lifestyle

Postby Unreal_Me on Fri Feb 26, 2010 7:26 am

I'm probably in a similar category as Spas, though I'm probably more shut-in than he is.

Alcohol/Weed is one of those things that I don't do often, but enjoy it when I do.

In my senior year of high school, about a hundred of us went and partied at some lake for a weekend. Lot's of drinking, lots of weed, some saliva, and probably a few other low-end drugs. Despite getting a massive sunburn, I had the best time of my life. I met new people, loosened up, and relaxed. I spent time in the woods with friends smoking weed around a campfire, hotboxed a car, and got so drunk I've forgotten parts of the weekend. (All of this with no hangover)

And this is from a guy who parties less than ten times a year.

I see both alcohol and weed as recreational things. In my opinion as long as you use it in moderation, there isn't really any harm.


On the flip side, I do see the benefits in The Hollow Night's lifestyle. Definitely a lot healthier in general.


As for moral limits, I won't go near cocaine, heroin, or anything too heavy. Nothing too far past Marijuana. And I will not let my lips touch a cigarette. I'm one of those "crazy" people who thinks weed is much healthier than tobacco. My dad quit about 10 years ago, and says the fear of having to quit is enough to keep him from smoking again.

As for casual sex, meh. As long as somebody doesn't get emotionally or physically hurt, it doesn't seem to be that big a deal.
Then again, I'm an 18 year old virgin, so what do I know.
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