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Right Libertarian or whatever the fuck.

We need to fix our blasted voting system to eliminate third-party spoiler effects before "vote the bums out" will ever be a reasonable course of action.

Dionysos wrote:If nobody voted, it would be apparent to everyone the system needs to be changed.

Canada's last federal election proved this. (And yet no changes were made)

As for my view:

Pretty much what I expected. For the most part, I'm fairly socialist and I would believe in high-taxation if I knew my government wouldn't waste it. Might be time for me to learn Swedish.

MayheM wrote:I disagree, by voting you have a voice. By standing by and letting people impose their will on you is not fighting the powers the be but rather surrendering to the. Without the voice of the people you only have the leaders doing as they see fit, in other words you have a dictator.

If you vote, you are complicit with the system. You cant protest against the system when youre complicit in it ...

Abstentions do not count in tallying the vote negatively or positively; when members abstain, they are in effect attending only to contribute to a quorum. It would be far more effective to cast a white vote than to not vote at all. At least white votes are tallied and proven to show a legitimate disapproval. Abstention is a clearer sign of apathy, rather than disapproval.

I understand what you're saying and agree with it. I just don't believe it has realistic applications.

Terr wrote:We need to fix our blasted voting system to eliminate third-party spoiler effects before "vote the bums out" will ever be a reasonable course of action.

I can agree with that... Though honestly I wish people voted more upon the merit of the candidate rather than their party affiliation. There are good people on both sides and to have everything on one side allows no balance. I am also all about term limits... career politicians are corrupt as all hell. all about staying in office and not what is best for the people.

As long as you vote for the lesser of two evils, nothing changes. If you don't support something, don't support it. Give your vote to something you really support, even if it seems pointless. It all differs from country to country, but slogging along and saying you chose the lesser of two evils as a justification isn't really... well viable.

Dionysos wrote:As long as you vote for the lesser of two evils, nothing changes.

The problematic part is that enough people will still vote for the lesser of two evils such that your protest is wasted. It's so improbable taht you'll get enough people acting in concert that the best solution is to try to reform the system itself, rather than which candidates are on the ballot.

Of course, I was mainly concerned with the mentality that picking the lesser of two evils is the most one can do (and a justification to do no more) and be content with that.

Changing the system of course requires more effort than not voting etc.

I love the neutrals. =)

About what I figured. The other test had me as a left-leaning centrist but I liked this one more. Wish I could revote......

Also:

Mr. Chop wrote:Abstentions do not count in tallying the vote negatively or positively; when members abstain, they are in effect attending only to contribute to a quorum. It would be far more effective to cast a white vote than to not vote at all. At least white votes are tallied and proven to show a legitimate disapproval. Abstention is a clearer sign of apathy, rather than disapproval.

I understand what you're saying and agree with it. I just don't believe it has realistic applications.

Agreed good sir. I think you should vote, there are much better ways of protesting government, and while maybe if noone voted (because few people really LIKE the system-except maybe politicians themselves) then change would happen, but lots of people are going to vote anyways and even if they didn't, the change would probably be pretty abrupt, and history can tell us what happens when abrupt power vacuums occur. If you really hate all politicians THAT much, then do what chop said and turn in a blank ballot, not voting says you don't care.

The problem these days is that all-too-often we are faced with the question: "Which side is bullshitting us more?"

Even where public opinion is pretty united, there are cases where Party X introduces Bill A, Party Y says Bill A isn't strong enough and votes no to introduce Bill B, and each party accuses the other's produce of being a massive sellout...

Liberal, times 12

I always come out on the Libertarian/Neutral line. I'm socially Liberal, and economically, uh, well, economically im in the middle. Some things make sense to me, others I think are crazy.