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Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:53 am
by The Giblets of Jesus
Not making an enormous amount of sense to me, I'll be honest with you...

My bullshit, crazy theory on how the universe began:

1. Man, or another intelligent life-form among the omniverse develops a method a travelling through the 4th dimension (time) but remains in the same 5th and 6th dimensional time line. SOMEHOW

2. Said life-form travels back to the time precursing the start of the universe, the big-bang on the create of the 'white hole', and triggers the events and creates the conditions of such an event to take . SOMEHOW

3. 1 of an infinite number of possible timeliness in the 5th dimension then becomes the primary line for the creators of the event. . SOMEHOW

4. I realise what absolute shit I'm spouting, realise it's about 4 in the morning and go to bed.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:13 am
by MayheM
Ashfall_2008 wrote:Given that god only exists if humans believe in him... and 53% of people who responded to this thread don't believe in god... I'd say the odds of him existing are not looking great!

:P

OK that is a bit of a stretch I admit...

Can god exist if we as humans don't give him any attention?


If people ignore you, do you still exist? Not meant in jest, but answer than and you have your answer.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 7:23 am
by Mr. Happy
No you don't, because your not being observed. At least, that's what schrodinger believed.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Sat Apr 23, 2011 2:48 pm
by The Giblets of Jesus
Oh god not more Quantum Physics Dx

I've had enough of that crap in College.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 9:22 am
by Astral Serpent
I believe there is a god or there are gods, but not any particular one, Though I've been looking at Paganism lately.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 3:19 pm
by MayheM
Mr. Happy wrote:No you don't, because your not being observed. At least, that's what schrodinger believed.


Come one man... No matter who said that, it is a lame argument that can be busted apart in an instant. Someone but needs to hit you in the head with a baseball bat. (hypothetically speaking, I am not suggesting someone hit you in the head) Anyway, You can try all you want to ignore the fact you have been hit in the head, but the fact of the matter is, you did.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 4:26 pm
by zombie@computer
MayheM wrote:
Mr. Happy wrote:No you don't, because your not being observed. At least, that's what schrodinger believed.


Come one man... No matter who said that, it is a lame argument that can be busted apart in an instant. Someone but needs to hit you in the head with a baseball bat. (hypothetically speaking, I am not suggesting someone hit you in the head) Anyway, You can try all you want to ignore the fact you have been hit in the head, but the fact of the matter is, you did.
It's a perfectly valid (and proven!) hypothesis in quantum physics. The state of a quantum element is determined as soon as it is observed, no earlier. A quantum bit has every value between 0 and 1, until it is observed and it returns 0 or 1. So the actual value of the bit doesn't exist until it's observed. If you never observe the state, it is not there.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:15 pm
by The Giblets of Jesus
^As colossally bullshit as it may seem, it's been scientifically proven.

Annoyingly.

Though Einstein did strongly protest against the method of thought, believing it to be total shit.

Re: What is your religion/belief?

PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:29 pm
by Dionysos
But it doesnt apply at our human scale, does it?

Also the "does god exist if no one believes in him" is more along the lines of god only exists in our minds.