Re: The "Slut" movement
Posted: Wed May 11, 2011 5:03 amI think the fact that this slut movement can even exist is a testament to the death of chauvinism.
I agree with the following people:
[frank] wrote:People keep saying rape.
The cop said victimised.
I sure as hell have been victimised (as a man) in the past, but I haven't been raped.
Hows about we stop extrapolating something that quite possibly is not even the intent.
@simpletool: Men have a lot of other issues on their plate. You can't go "Here is a list of things women face, men don't face them, so women are obviously worse off and can therefore be excused".
Using the whole rape idea, going out at night is definitely stressful for women, but it is so too for men. Men being assaulted at night is, I am sure, more common than women being raped. Being punched in the face obviously isn't the same as being raped, but it sure as hell isn't something that can be brushed away, and is definitely a huge fear to many people.
Or, we go with this career and social expectations. Men are expected to be bread winners, have a successful career. Sure, sexual favours or how you dress, barely comes into it (other than appropriate attire, which is purely what women too should wear, but I won't start the appropriate debate), but you still have the same stress of pursuit and social pressure.
Have you ever seen how men are portrayed in media? Either as uber-masculine muscle men, rich business (and/or smart) men, or a combination of fat, greasy, ugly, "poor" men. Try and fit that.
I'm not trying to remove the horror of rape, or the issues women face, but to lessen them as a crutch for an argument, when many similar issues are faced by men. And I am definitely not trying to pardon any rapists.
Mr. Happy wrote:You are only oppressed if you let yourself feel oppressed. I've always believed that you should act how you would in an ideal world because that's how we make an ideal world. Women shouldn't feel intimidated buying contraceptives, for example. If someone gives you shit, tell them to fuck off! If they press it, spray em with mace! Grow a spine. The culture of victimization is a self perpetuating one, if you feel victimized, you are victimized, but if instead you say fuck that and stand up for yourself then all the possible outcomes are better, then you win, even if you die.
I'd say the popular culture is on the side of women, the courts, the media, the organizations. How much political and educational rhetoric is devoted to this topic? Tons. But there's still a few assholes, backwards ass people that stand out as being assholes. We notice the people that intentionally make us uncomfortable, but you don't notice the thousands and thousands of other people just like you that are in the background. I think the fact that this slut movement or whatever can even exist is a testament to the death of chauvinism.
sarcasm...