Immaturity in youngsters.

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Immaturity in youngsters.

Postby KILLA-COW on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:01 pm

I being a young, 'bright' and informed 15 year old, knows for well the views and thoughts of the older generation about our behaviour and habbits.

Being branded as immature, as an ASBO and the such from the older generation, based sometimes purely on the clothes my friends and I may be wearing or maybe on another group of youngsters they've had trouble from. Those who expect all 14-19 year olds to be totally immature and just to stand in line and act perfect are to be honest disillusioned and naive. Most teens will do as they please and of course cause as much havoc as possible at times and they'll stretch the law as far as they can whilst they are young and to be honest can get away with more.

Most adults who take the time and effort to get to know 15 or 16 or 17 year olds probably would compare them to another adult, because when push comes to shove we have been just as well educated and are just as well read as many adults who maybe haven't had the opportunity and drive to take their life by the scruff of its neck and run with it. Then againl, sure many adults may have wider knowledge and understanding of the world, however I'm sure many children (with obvious exceptions) could have just as meaningful and intellectual conversations.

I, speaking from experience, know that being immature can have its downsides and I know that adults react poorly to this, but, just think, if I were to grow up now and act as mature as possible no doubt my level of enjoyment and sense of fufillment in life would diminish, I feel as if I shouldn't grow up until I become what is an adult and I am unleashed upon the wide world. If i grew up now there would always be a hole like a feeling when I'm older that I wasted the 1 chance I'll get at life. In my life I want to live it to its full, when the times come that I'm called upon to be mature and sensible I can be mature and sensible, on the other hand, when I'm at home, with mates and in my free time, I have no need to be mature, I have a need to live my life to its full and to enjoy every minute.

In conclusion I just remind you that even though some of us may be younger than you, it doesn't mean we are less than you, people of all ages are equal and the younger generation (mine) may act immature at times but thats just us enjoying our life while we can and living life to the full, all of us can and are mature when the times come.

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Postby Athlete{UK} on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:09 pm

I dunno from what perspective you are speaking from but the reason i think you are immature is becaus you act like it. Surprisingly you raise some interesting points but if you act immature that's what i'm gonna think of you.
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Postby KILLA-COW on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:13 pm

Well thanks for your 'comment' , Athlete. I mean I've been trying to keep reasonable over the past couple of weeks because ummm i realise that I am a wee bit annoying, but I'm just telling everyone why I seem like this and that I can be normal and have reasonable debates.

Hippocritically you call me immature and then instead of debating it you call me a twat and patronise me by saying things such as,' suprisingly you raise some intresting points.' Sorry I forgot because I've acted immature I'm supposed just to spam my ass off and only make useless posts.

Well hopefully some people will be able to take meaning from what I said and not straight away put it down because I'm a twat.
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Postby Spartan on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:42 pm

Ha! I wouldn't worry too much Killa. As long as you start to recognize what your doing and try to improve on it then you'll be fine.
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:53 pm

I don't just write you off because. You just act like it most of the time. Although i will admit you have been far far better of the past couple of months. Just you keep improving.
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Postby KILLA-COW on Mon Jan 02, 2006 7:56 pm

Fair douze Athlete but still I mean just branding me a twat because of the times i act not to your liking?

Well I think I made a valid and useful point in my post and I stick by everything I said in it!

I'd like to hear some younger peoples views as well lol!
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Postby zombie@computer on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:05 pm

your point was that mature people cant call immature people immature because they are living life as they see fit? Or am i missing something?
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Postby KILLA-COW on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:08 pm

zombie@computer wrote:your point was that mature people cant call immature people immature because they are living life as they see fit? Or am i missing something?


No my point was, older people shouldn't judge and clump together all young people as immature ASBOs and if they took the time to talk and debate and have meaningful conversations with them that they would maybe see differently and change their views.
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:25 pm

Kow everyone i know who has asbos (and i live in stoke so fooking everyone i know pretty much) deserves them.

Seriously i've never met a chav who hasn't deserved not to get the shit beat out of them for one reason or another.

I'll leave you guessing but you might already know the answer.

How old do you think i am?
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Postby KILLA-COW on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:28 pm

19-21,

Yeh but i mean people brand me as an ASBO cos I drink and am a chav?

Its unbelieveable people can conform to sterotypes so easily and foolishly.
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Mon Jan 02, 2006 8:33 pm

Wait what? i brand you as an ASBO? ASBO=antisocial behavior order (funny thing the number of adults including OAPs with ASBOs outweighs the amount of kids)

I'm just say chavs are twats.

I dunno about conforming but all stereotypes start somewhere.

I do have a lot of chav mates and drink with a lot of them. Doesn't stop me wanting to bash the living fuck out of them alot of the times.


Oh and the age thing is a fair way off.
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Postby Blink on Mon Jan 02, 2006 10:55 pm

Younger people have always been looked down on and branded 'immature' by all generations, it just happens. When I went skating years ago (Before chavs came about) older people used to give me a look of disgust and it did bother me, but when chavs came about the spotlight shifed so all was well.

I think the key point here, especially with you Killa cow, is the fact that the internet is free from such stereotypes and gives you a chance to act as mature as you are saying you are.

When you sign up to a message board (such as this one) no-one knows your name, age, sex etc. So you could be 11 and type correctly, give sensible views and be part of mature discussions, great no problems. The problem is when despite the chance to set a good impression people dive into threads with their CAPS LOCK firmly on and basically act as stupid as they can get and piss everyone off.

Then you are branded as an idiot etc and in my view you derserve it.

Basically, don't go monaing about mature/immature when you can't apply basic english sense to a message board (a general statement, not at you Killa).
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Postby DRX on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:35 pm

It depends on the person. I'm 14 and I've never been called immature or looked down upon. People say I look 18 or 19, but I'm only turning 15 next June. Even so, its the way I act, and my additude, that makes me mature. Sure, looks are a first impression, but I led a councelor at my camp to believe I was 18 for 2 weeks because of how I acted.

Even though I act mature doesn't mean I don't have any fun. Infact, I have lots of fun, but I'm not a punk rock hardcore kid. I don't like chaos. For me, fun is writing and playing music and being with my girlfriend and watching movies. Fun for me is drawing and other creative activities. I'm just saying, overall, its how you act that people will judge you. If someone is calling you immature who is an adult, they most likely have a reason. If not, then they're an immature adult. Adults aren't supposed to just judge people - by the time you're that age you should be able to distinguish the fact that you shoudn't judge a book by its cover.

I find it somewhat funny how Athlete here calls you immature and a "twat." In that way, he's being more immature than you have been. I haven't seen you be immature, in fact, all of your posts have been worthy and good (but I haven't been around too long). All I have to say is, if Athlete was more mature, he probably would've sent you a PM and said "You're acting immature. Its getting slightly annoying and stupid, and really, its no help to the forum. Get it together." Instead, he publically insults you probably to sound funny to other people to make him "look better." This is something young teens around 10-14 do (according to my psychiatrist. See also: scene kids). Its not mature and rather lame.

Anyways, I mean, I'm not that old. Here is a picture of me. I know it's not gonna look mature, infact its gonna look really stupid, and I'm not gay. Its my girlfriend's shirt and pants and she took the pic.

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It's really just a matter of when you should be mature and when you shouldn't. I'm not acting mature in that pic, but thats because it was with someone who wouldn't think of me less for doing it. Infact, we had a really good and fun time.

Also, just to prove I'm not gay, here you go.

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Postby showNOmercy on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:48 pm

What youngsters tend to forget is that the older folks were all 15 once and can remember those days. The joke with 15yr old kids is they KNOW they KNOW everything. Many times it is impossible to debate when they already have all the answers! I am easily annoyed with younger kids who do not respect their elders. Trying to look cool as a teenager by acknowledging that you drink alcohol is a joke. You will only make yourself look terribly stupid. You will gain no respect from me or anyone else by making an ass of yourself.

If you are going to act immature you will be treated as such. If you want to be taken more seriously then you need to stfu sit back and learn something. Respect is earned, not handed out.
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Postby Torrean on Mon Jan 02, 2006 11:49 pm

I don't think I'm immature. I'm 14, and I seem to be one of the only forum-goers(sp?) that you can understand, besides on this forum.
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