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Postby Dead-Inside on Wed May 03, 2006 4:05 pm

Wait, you're going against yourself now? You're anti-Bush?
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Postby zombie@computer on Wed May 03, 2006 4:49 pm

Dead-Inside wrote:You're anti-Bush?
Everybody is anti-Bush. Only some are more than others :P
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Postby Dead-Inside on Wed May 03, 2006 5:29 pm

zombie@computer wrote:
Dead-Inside wrote:You're anti-Bush?
Everybody is anti-Bush. Only some are more than others :P


Then how come he got re-elected?
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Postby Sorrow on Wed May 03, 2006 5:35 pm

Republican voting machines >> Diebold systems (they were wiped immediately after 'the votes' were in) all electronic crap, can't be traced



RIGGED ELECTIONS, I thought that was common knowledge by now.
funny why nobody gets it in his/her head to shoot the motherfucker though.

letting your country slide into shit is one thing, but doing nothing against is is another.
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Postby Dude But if ... on Wed May 03, 2006 10:20 pm

Dead-Inside wrote:Wait, you're going against yourself now? You're anti-Bush?

I never said i was pro Bush.


Dead-Inside wrote:
zombie@computer wrote:
Dead-Inside wrote:You're anti-Bush?
Everybody is anti-Bush. Only some are more than others :P


Then how come he got re-elected?


He got re-elected because of the attack on the twin towers. Directly after the attacks his poll nubers went way up, mostly due to many public addresses he made concerning terrorism and such. You have to rememeber that after the attacks almost all us Americans were very pro war, we were... very pissed off you might say. But of course Bush can talk real good, but his actions are not nearly as good.

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RIGGED ELECTIONS, I thought that was common knowledge by now.
funny why nobody gets it in his/her head to shoot the motherfucker though.

letting your country slide into shit is one thing, but doing nothing against is is another.

Even if someone got the guts to try to assasinate him, it would never work, its almost impossible to assasinate the president now-days.
Dwaaa?

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Postby Sorrow on Wed May 03, 2006 11:06 pm

unfortunately yes, they should try nuking the bastard :)

(tactical nuke ofcourse)

or next time when the evil terrorists hijack another plane or maybe something else, they should rig their vehicle with a nuke or a fertilizer bomb... I heard it does wonders
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Postby Dude But if ... on Thu May 04, 2006 2:42 am

Only problem is the terrorists don't have either.
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Postby dragonfliet on Thu May 04, 2006 3:13 am

Sorrow wrote:Republican voting machines >> Diebold systems (they were wiped immediately after 'the votes' were in) all electronic crap, can't be traced



RIGGED ELECTIONS, I thought that was common knowledge by now.
funny why nobody gets it in his/her head to shoot the motherfucker though.


Yeah..... I'm sure you have some wonderful evidence for this right?

Also, all electronic voting machines used produce a paper copy for every vote. Yay for people that blindly believe conspiracy theories.
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Postby Sorrow on Thu May 04, 2006 11:12 am

well apparently these machines didn't produce paper stuff
I saw some stuff on tv about that shit, look around on the net, and stop believing in your holy fucktard mr. president his goodness


fucking patriot


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Postby zombie@computer on Thu May 04, 2006 11:24 am

its always odd how IQ-less people seem to think they know everything and win any argument by calling names and using dirty words

those who did that know i mean you
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Postby dragonfliet on Thu May 04, 2006 1:38 pm

Sorrow wrote:well apparently these machines didn't produce paper stuff
I saw some stuff on tv about that shit, look around on the net, and stop believing in your holy fucktard mr. president his goodness


fucking patriot


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All I'm asking for is your evidence. It's pretty simple.

Here's something else for you, back in 2000, Bush won the florida vote. Even when all of the votes where hand counted by CNN and other news organizations, he still won. But I'm sure that was a big news conspiracy huh? Oh well, don't listen to me, I'm just a fucking patriot.
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Postby Lovro on Thu May 04, 2006 3:07 pm

The reason for the attack was oil/power/money in general. There will be less and less oil in the world and the country that will have the most of it will call the shots when it runs out (and crank up the prices). Reasons for foregin wars like iraq (agains a nation which another has nothing against) are never personal (twin towers attack)
for wars just look at histoy- their is ALLWAYS a deeper reason- just like crusades really warend about muslims abusing jerusalem vs. just catholics before, it isn't EVIL!!!11one sadam vs. "protecting freedom/ it the right thing to do" USA now. The towers and WMD+ that bullshit is just plain propaganda to pump peole up because noone it the right mind goes killing some people for nothing. Kind of like germany started blaming shit on the jews, staged attacks on the polish border... Now usa is doing something simillar just with a few other tricks. It has allways happened- if you have a ton of millitary and economy going down hill- invade "stuff"
It just sickens me that so many people died (mainly form iraq) for nothing and USA is just feeding propaganda shit to everyone about how good are they- be a man and say we invaded for money: its nothing better for those killed but a least you are not some spineless liar.
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Postby Sorrow on Thu May 04, 2006 3:45 pm

ok ok sorry I was a bit overzealous
I'm looking into the whole diebold thing right now,


"Together, ES&S and Diebold Election Systems are (as of 2004) responsible for tallying approximately 80% of the votes cast in the United States."

"The software architecture common to both is a creation of Mr. Urosevich's company I-Mark. Some experts claim that this structure is easily compromised"

In August 2003, Walden O'Dell, chief executive of Diebold, announced that he had been a top fund-raiser for President George W. Bush and had sent a get-out-the-funds letter to Ohio Republicans. In the letters he says he is "committed to helping Ohio deliver its electoral votes to the president next year."


yeah this is obviously from wikipedia, but there are other sources too.

go read it yourself and have fun

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diebold_Election_Systems
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Postby dragonfliet on Thu May 04, 2006 4:38 pm

yay! a flawed system. congrats. I suppose I must have been thinking to FUTURE demands that all electronic machines print paper reciepts was current, but none-the-less, there's absolutely no reason to believe the election was tampered with seeing how strong it was and how well it compared to independant polling at the time. Oh well. This topic seriously needs to die. I'm just going to ignore it. 7 pages of this is hurting my head.

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Postby Sorrow on Thu May 04, 2006 5:01 pm

true true
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