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Postby alexroyce on Sat May 06, 2006 4:18 pm

Wow someone really needs to kick Mr Thompsons ass as clearly nothing else would work in getting him to shut up.
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Postby InternalRage on Sat May 06, 2006 5:13 pm

Somebody will slap me for this, but the only point there that Jack Thompson made, was that nobody called 911, apparently..

R.I.P, and sorry to his family, i'm sure he's in a better place.
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Postby KILLA-COW on Sat May 06, 2006 5:23 pm

I find it difficult to grasp just how someone can take their own life? I mean I know people get depressed and stuff and even that seems mind boggling to me, surely life is the most precious thing you have, if you have life whatever may be going on around you should, no matter how major, pale in insignificance compared to the gift of life.

When life and love is present I can see nothing else which one would need and I don't see how you could throw it away, maybe some more people should learn from, 'always look on the bright side of life.'
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Postby DarkGore on Sat May 06, 2006 5:41 pm

Well, suicide is a very hard thing to cope with, my brother, my best friend, and one of my ex gf's all killed themselves within a 3 month period in my life.

I myself have attempted suicide many times, and not for attention, but to make myself less of a burden on others. Yes I sound Emo, Shut up before you post, and read this entire thing.

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I am now 19, and have endured 19 painful, embarassing, and stressful surgeries (my last one almost killed me of heart attack)

Throughout my entire life, I was made fun of, for looking different, I struggled through school, social life, and as I got older, I got heavily involved with drugs. I had a bad cocaine addiction for almost 3 years ( 16-18 ) and let me tell you, drugs can -really- mess up your family life.

My family basically disowned me, I would have bad drug withdrawls, I'd hit my mother, scream at my grandmother, steal stuff. It wasen't me, it wasen't who I wanted to be, and I was sober enough one day to realize that I was ripping my family in two, and it was bad.

I decided to end it, because I felt so bad for putting my family through so much stress my entire life, they had to deal with my problems, take me to the hospital, nurse me when I was recovering from surgery. It was bad.

No I'm not justifying suicide, I'm saying, that certain people here shoulden't be bashing on others for suicide, or attempting it, unless you yourself have experianced truly what depression and other things can do to you.

I'm glad I survived my attempt, it opened my eyes, sobered me up, and now I'm engaged to a very lovely woman, and am very happy.

So think before you speak, you never know who you could be insulting.
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Postby Woe Kitten on Sat May 06, 2006 6:53 pm

Agreed. All this talk of suicide as selfish is stunning to me. You want to know about something that's selfish? How about calling someone elses genuine misery and their attempt to get free from that misery a 'selfish act' because it makes you feel a little bit down. The effects on other people of a suicide are usually nothing compared to the absolute horror of actually being the person in that position.
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Postby DarkGore on Sat May 06, 2006 6:57 pm

Coulden't have said that better myself.
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Postby YokaI on Sun May 07, 2006 1:10 am

Nice bump, and i still think suiciding is retarded. If your going to suicide, dont make such a dramatic post about it.
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Postby showNOmercy on Sun May 07, 2006 2:19 am

YokaI wrote:Nice bump, and i still think suiciding is retarded. If your going to suicide, dont make such a dramatic post about it.


Who the fuk are you?

Many posts I have read by you are either demoralizing or selfish prickishness or both. Just who do you think you are? Ever heard a cry for help, not everyone has a perfect little life with everything handed to them. (you could be homeless and posting from a wifi spot, I could care less). Anyone who doesn't understand problems or compasion or sleflessness or depression would act such as yourself.


I would normally refrain from posting like this but you completely pissed me off.
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Postby TheRecreator on Sun May 07, 2006 2:45 am

things get better over time. To commit suicide over something like school or lost boyfriends/girlfriends is stupid. It's actually dumb to commit suicide over anything. And as DarkGore has shown us, through something as tough as he has been through. It got better and suicide was not the answer.

Also, if you say that he is in a better place now, then does that mean you believe in heaven? But if so, then you must also believe that you go to hell if you commit suicide. If you were atheist then you wouldn't believe in anything though, including that "better place"... hmm, whatever.

Sorry to his family for their loss.
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Postby dragonfliet on Sun May 07, 2006 5:59 am

TheRecreator wrote:But if so, then you must also believe that you go to hell if you commit suicide.


sorry for the minor derail, but only certain branches of differing religions believe in that; and a number of other branches/religions don't even believe in hell, period
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Postby Spartan on Sun May 07, 2006 3:41 pm

TheRecreator wrote:things get better over time. To commit suicide over something like school or lost boyfriends/girlfriends is stupid. It's actually dumb to commit suicide over anything. And as DarkGore has shown us, through something as tough as he has been through. It got better and suicide was not the answer.


That's a pretty big assumption. People don't just kill themselves over something like that. Their life can become so despairing due to several different factors that eventually the most trivial thing can put them over the edge and then they'll try suicide. Usually family and friends don't even know the person is depressed until they finally try and take their own life.
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Postby YokaI on Sun May 07, 2006 7:57 pm

showNOmercy wrote:
YokaI wrote:Nice bump, and i still think suiciding is retarded. If your going to suicide, dont make such a dramatic post about it.


Many posts I have read by you are either demoralizing or selfish prickishness or both. Just who do you think you are? Ever heard a cry for help, not everyone has a perfect little life with everything handed to them. (you could be homeless and posting from a wifi spot, I could care less). Anyone who doesn't understand problems or compasion or sleflessness or depression would act such as yourself.


Being depressed is one thing, but taking away your life because you think there is no fix is retarded.

I dont think suicide itself is retarded, but posting it on the internet so you can get attention is just like posting on your myspace saying your going to kill yourself, which was mocked on the internet for quite some time. But I think that killing yourself just means that you think everything in life sucks. These kids should look at people living in Africa, living in Darfur, seeing they aren't killing themselves. Or look back at the holocast for a few seconds. When life is threatend, you should fight for it. If you are still living and you lose something valuable in your life, to kill youself is cowardish.

Not saying I have no respect for these people, but They are killing themselves and not putting up a fight at all. You should fight for you life, to throw it away.

When you look at genocide of any civilization, people wouldn't just kill themselves. People killing themselves now are doing it for no good reason. Sure your poor, but do you really think that ruins your life? Comparing it to mass murder, I dont think it does.

As to "most of my posts are prickish" well, fuck you. I know many people who have had shitty lives but I still believe giving away your life isn't a good response. I still think that posting about it on the internet is just being a fucking attention whore.

Oh, and I really do believe that pouverty is a big issue and I am not self centered.
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Postby zombie@computer on Sun May 07, 2006 8:06 pm

Its easy to say "look on the bright side of life" if you've never feeled depressed. Perhaps you should try to look up the word "empathy", it is one of the key elements in social behaviour and you seem to lack
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Postby YokaI on Tue May 09, 2006 12:58 am

Its easy to say "look on the bright side of life" if you've never feeled depressed. Perhaps you should try to look up the word "empathy", it is one of the key elements in social behaviour and you seem to lack


Sorry but my opinion about suicide is that it doesnt seem to make as much sense because, by the way it sounds, he would have been better if he didnt commit suicide and looked for help. But, I allow people to practice what they want even if I disagree. I think it is that way doesnt mean it should be that way. I just think that maybe he should look around him, and that his existance isn't as worthless as he thinks it is.
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Postby undertone on Tue May 09, 2006 2:03 am

when you have clinical depression even the slightest "speed-bumps" can seem like mountains. most people who commit suicide are clinically depressed. this beleive it or not is a mental illness. you cant look on the bright side of life. many of these people actually feel that there is no way out, and feel that life just isnt worth living.

now, im not saying i understand every aspect of this kid's life, or anyone who is clinically depressed. what im saying is that saying that they need to look on the bright side of life, just stick it out just isnt an option in the minds of these people.
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