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Zombie:I have no idea where you are getting your information, but, respectfully, it is 100% wrong. Have you actually read the Qu'ran? What about studies done about the meaning of it and how Muslims follow it?
Did you know that Muslims consider the Qu'ran to be, literally, a fax from God? The Bible is open to interpretation, but the Qu'ran is not. Why is that?
The Bible is full of riddles and stories. Things that make you think.
The Qu'ran is full of anti-Christian and anti-Jew ranting made by a warlord, highlighted by quotes from Allah that speak directly to the reader. The Qu'ran is an instructional book that orders people to do exactly what it says.
Did you know that there are no moral values in Islam? Christianity has the Ten Commandments, Buddahism and Shintoism have their virtues, but where are virtues in Islam? There are none. A Muslim can do whatever dastardly deed he pleases, so long as he views it as being "good for Islam". He can go around chopping the heads off of unbelievers (just like the Qu'ran says to do: "...and strike at the necks of the unbelievers...", and his fellow Muslims will praise him for it.
You sound like one of those politically correct people who make up myths and re-write history to try not to offend anyone. The truth is quite different, and someone is going to get offended. You cannot go around re-writing history when you are afraid of a lawsuit! History is history.
Try picking up some history books written before the recent politically correct bullshit began. Before the 1950s would be a good time to start. Read what they say about the Crusades, and you would think it is a totally different subject when you compair it to what it taught today. Back then, the Crusaders were known as the good guys, and they blatently told the truth about Islam. Unfortunately, history has been re-written with modern lawsuits to paint the Crusaders as barbarians and islam as the most peaceful religion ever.
Islam brings peace only through war. It spreads by the sword, exactly as Allah instructs in the Qu'ran.
If it makes you feel any better, I was once in your position. I thought I knew everything about Islam and the Crusades. I recently decided to do some research and sort out truth from fiction, and boy, was I surprised! The truth was almost the exact opposite of what I had been taught in school!
Why? Most of this change comes from what is called being "politically correct", or rather, trying to say something without hurting someone's feelings. This is an effort in futility, because no matter what you say, someone, somewhere would be offended by it.
I prefer what is called "politially incorrect", which is just saying something the way you mean it: no understatements or exaggerations, and no sugar coating. Right between the eyes -- smack you upside the head -- right to the point.
History should be politically incorrect, can we agree on that? If so, then perhaps you too can open your mind to what you have not been taught, and the history that was hidden from the West in recent decades... Our leaders pull the wool over our eyes and tell us to sit down and shut up. You must break through this boundary to discover the true nature of the modern world.
Sure, you can go into classic denial and ignore the whole subject, or continue trying to argue with myths that you have been told were truth, but eventually the truth will shine through the dark fog of myths and lies. I hope that everyone can see through that fog...
Athlete wrote:For well over 400 years christianity practically forbade scientific advancements you really do have to be living in a fantasy world to not notice the fact that people who practice chemistry astronomy, Biology and ideas behind basics physics were deemed heretics and systematically killed. Why do you think throughout the middleages technology didn't move on at all?
Seriously you ask any histories we'd be well ahead in technology if it wasn't for them.
I agree, but your analysis is false. This is a well known and often believed myth about the Dark Ages. The fact is that technology DID advance. Look at the evolution of weaponry, torture devices, fortress construction, and architecture. Alchemy led directly to chemistry, and astrology to astronomy. Advancement was hindered by religion, but there was some improvements. Ironically, it was those advancements that paved the way out of the Dark Ages...
Yes, it was a sad period, and I am not saying that Islam is the only religion with a bad history. In fact, every single religion has its bad times, and most want to forget it. The problem is, when you forget or re-write history, you open the door for the same mistakes to repeat themselves.
Everyone here can say that the repitition of bad history is a terrible thing, right? Who wants to see another Hitler rise to power, just because it was deemed to "aweful" to put in history books? If you arm yourself with the knowledge of how such things begin, they can be stopped from happening again.
(Goes to show how far we've 