Fahrenheit 9/11

[NsOmNiA91130]

Did anyone else see this documentary? It's really quite amazing.

But I want to know your thoughts on this. What did you think?

[Caste]

It's really too old to talk about anymore

[mabufo]

Fahrenhype 9/11 was much better.

[Terminator]

Never watched it.
Never wanted to watch it.
Never cared about it.

Simple enough?

[-[Getty]-]

I heard that the videos used in it were edited to make it look worse than what it really was.

[Caste]

I heard that the videos used in it were edited to make it look worse than what it really was.

what videos could they edit?
I know they edited some scenes of pre-war Iraq to make it look better than it was

[dragonfliet]

Michael Moore has a terrible history of splicing videos in very severe ways in order emphasize a point-rather than telling the truth, which is pretty contrary to the idea of a documentary and is more in line with propoganda. You can check out some of the anti-moore sites that have scene by scene breakdowns if you want.

~Jason

[5eyes]

Yea, I also heard that the movie was filled with inaccuracies, but what do you expect, when your someone putting out a movie you will aim to get the most money possible...

[Dude But if ...]

IMO both hight and hype are both so full of bullcrap they are not at all worth any doucumentary value, as the truth has been badly altered in both.

[Blink]

This is a much better movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ose+change

[Trigger-]

This is a much better movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ose+change

That movie made me so freakin paranoid dude. It does seam pluasable too.

This is a defintie must see.

[RSX WHEEEEEE]

this movie did have a point, unfortunately, it was a crappy one.

[InvestmentBanking]

This is a much better movie: http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid ... ose+change

Thanks for the link to that... I ended up watching the entire thing... pretty crazy.

[Persol]

Plot holes anyone? Critical thought is a good thing. Random, unsupported, contradicting statements proof does not make,

So, the plane is empty, and remote controled, yet it matters that the pilot used to be Air Force?

It's odd that the WTC owners took out an insurrance policy against terrorism? Knowing that they had been attacked before, and that threats of new threats were continuous?

It's odd that put options got placed? Eh?

Tons of unsubstaintiatied claims about canceled flights...

Training missions are odd? Regardless, wha would these have done?

Hunter S Tompson has anything to do with this? Lets find the most publicized drugey and make him support our cause. Yeah! His thoughts on patriotism are scarily accurate... but that doesn't in any way support the fanciful claims.

The business of 'controlled demolitions' has been shown false numerous times. A second year enginnering student could simulate the structuaral failure... and several schools have.

Contradicting reports on TV news minutes after the attack show nothing except that the 'news' nowadays is more sensasialism than anything else.

The underside of the plane does not look odd. Several sites have photos of other 747s with the same shadows.

The tossed about light poles... does he realize the amount of force?

The 'incorrect pieces' part is simply sad. First, the government went through all this trouble, but didn't manage to plat the correct pieces? Furthermore, these pieces HAVE ben identified. The wheels in particular have been seen in photos of other planes before the attacks.

The Greece flight is a different angle of impact, different speed, less fuel, smaller plane (mass).

Cordite in the Pentagon is surprising because.....

The comparisons to other plane vs building crashes are a red herring. The buildings were DESIGNED to take the impact of small jets. It was the combinitation of jet fuel (temperature) and impact force (mass/speed of plane). You can burn a house for hours without it collapsing. Add an enough accelerent and the house will collapse. Anyone who's participated in fire fighters training knows this. (Pueblo CO TTCI training here)

Basement/lobby damage. The elevators crashed. And? Secondary explosions? These 'explosions' happen in all large fires where airflow is constrained.

They make a huge deal about how the plane with a foreign pilot caused a bomb scare in Clevland. Then they claim this is proof of Flight 93 landing there.

They accidently 'forgot' to change the tail numbers? And still list them as 'in service'? Uh huh.... OR, the author had the wrong numbers.

How does 'stabbed' turn into 'murdered'?

Flight seat discrepancies are normal. It's not uncommon that I'll sit in a different seat.

The cellphone thing is garbage. The narrator says its airphones, then compares it to cellphones. The narrator doesn't seem to realize that airphones are built into the planes.

Then, this is just funny, he says the voices are faked... yet he made a big deal about the voice in the background prompting. Um, yeah...

[Blink]

Your opinion will depend on what you want to believe. I think that video raised some good points. One thing that isn't answered is why the FBI etc are so tight lipped. Just doesn' do them any favours when they could come out with evidence and shut the conspiracy writers up.

Governments everywhere are always doing things behind their peoples' (and even leaders) backs, maybe little things but still there are secrets you and I will never know. Perhaps 9/11 is just on a grander scale? Maybe because you believe so strongly that it couldn't happen that their cover up has worked. After all you got your information from other media as well.

I'm just saying keep an open mind, as not everything the US (and other countries) do is all innocent and helpful to others.