Animal Testing

[Spartan]

What's your opinion on it? Are you against it? For it? Or do you believe it is justifiable under certain regulated circumstances?



Personally I find it can be beneficial at times in research and cruel other times. A prime example of cruel animal testing is the exposure of mice in labs to naphthalene. If such testing was done on humans it would be considered torture.

Discuss

[Generalvivi]

its ok on rats and small rodents but other animals like dogs and cats ima have to say a no on that.

becuase vivi loves teh kitties and puppies ^^

-vivi

[dragonfliet]

With the exception of studies that measure how much pain an animal can take before it stops recieving, etc., I fully support animal testing, even for ludicrous things such as cosmetics. I'm sorry, it may sound cruel, but I would rather some dumb animal be harmed to test something than a human. There are extremes that I don't support, but overall, I find testing to be awesome.

[Generalvivi]

dragon but... think of the lil puppies!

[Shr3d]

I support testing out experiments on george bush 100% also.

[marnamai]

WARNING THIS IS CRUEL
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/cat_test.jpg
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/vivisCat1.JPG
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7857/f060716dr.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4677/foto1011ef.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7176/foto0515nl.jpg

To test the effects of burns, this dog was burned alive at the Shriner's Hospital, Cincinnati, USA.

source: http://www.novivisezione.org/mostra/pan1_en.htm
source: http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/more.html

if you still can allow that to be used on animals then something is really wrong with you ...

[The-fox]

i do not support any testing on any animal at all under any circumstances or for any exepction ever

[PhilE]

Completely against testing that we wouldn't otherwise do to ourselves.

I am a very big animals rights activist. (no I'm not part of peta, they only cause more trouble) Instead I used to volunteer my time at the humane society animal shelter.

[Athlete{UK}]

Personally i'm more against the animal activists who haven't got a clue.

Cruelty to animals is somethings i am dead against and i well support animal activists who aren't morons.

But my mum used to be a ranger and some moron do gooders who really are the stupidest fucks i can imagin released a load of mink from a farm. Ok keeping the mink cooped up and killing them for coats was way wrong. But have you any idea how much damage a pack of mink will do to an eco system that isn't ready for them?

They almost killed all the ducks in the park.(an i'm not talking shitting little town park i mean a large country park) Mass amounts of rabiits and hares were torn apart. Foxes were found dead as were badgers etc etc.

By trying to "save teh aimals man" like a bunch of morons they managed to kill far more then any lab would have done that year.

But still. I am against animal cruelty. But hypothetically if it was a medicinal cause that would save a lot of people and absoloutly had to be used on animals to test i would have to agree it should be allowed.

[ShaDoW]

What Athlete said.

Besides, even cosmetics experiments on animals isn't all that bad most of the time. How else would they get a fur that shines and lusters like all top models!

[zombie@computer]

People who are completely against animal testing should consider what we owe to animal testing nowadays. I disapprove animal testing, unless there is no other option. This opinion is shared by most governments also.

Don't believe what 'they' say in the media. Whatever you see on the net, on tv, the worst case stuff, it doesnt happen everywhere. Most experiments aren't that cruel. No self-respecting laboratory would do cruel test even if they were allowed to. When someone wants to test on animals in the EU, he first has to pass some tests with his experments. Before he can commence, a comittee of vets and scientists bend down over the plan to see if there are alternatives that require less discomfort for the animals, less animals or none at all. I dont know about the US, doubt its much different.

Lots of animal activists make you believe animal experiments are boundless, a scientist can just buy 100 rabbits and throw whatever he wants over them. This is not true (apart from offcourse the occasional illegitimate experiments), but they lie to win souls. Heh, like everybody does...

Ive been in both a university and a commercial animal testing laboratory, and neither was very shocking to see. In fact, most, if not all animals there have just as much attention and space to use as your pets.

[KILLA-COW]

After what happened to those 6 men a couple of weeks ago I think it's very wrong but still a valuble part of testing potentiolly life saving drugs and they can save humans lives so SOME good can come of it, still fucking wrong stuff though.

[Spartan]

WARNING THIS IS CRUEL
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/cat_test.jpg
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/vivisCat1.JPG
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7857/f060716dr.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4677/foto1011ef.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7176/foto0515nl.jpg

To test the effects of burns, this dog was burned alive at the Shriner's Hospital, Cincinnati, USA.

source: http://www.novivisezione.org/mostra/pan1_en.htm
source: http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/more.html

if you still can allow that to be used on animals then something is really wrong with you ...

That's the sort of testing I'm 100% against.

[mabufo]

WARNING THIS IS CRUEL
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/cat_test.jpg
http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/img/vivisCat1.JPG
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7857/f060716dr.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4677/foto1011ef.jpg
http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/7176/foto0515nl.jpg

To test the effects of burns, this dog was burned alive at the Shriner's Hospital, Cincinnati, USA.

source: http://www.novivisezione.org/mostra/pan1_en.htm
source: http://www.all-creatures.org/ha/more.html

if you still can allow that to be used on animals then something is really wrong with you ...

That's the sort of testing I'm 100% against.

I'd like to know where those photos came from. They burned a dog alive to test the effects of burns? That's bullshit - (sadly -) there are plenty of burn victims at hospitals for people to study. So, I call bullshit on those photos.

[ShaDoW]

And like Zombie said, that kind of stuff is worst scenario and is very rare.