Animal Testing

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Postby marnamai on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:06 pm

yes humans are capable of doing everything ...

dont click this links
http://poetry.rotten.com/failed-mission/
http://poetry.rotten.com/cab-driver/
http://poetry.rotten.com/family-matters/
http://poetry.rotten.com/bowhunter/
http://poetry.rotten.com/patho38/
http://poetry.rotten.com/cannibalisme/
http://poetry.rotten.com/eye-gouge/

I know that these pictures havent anything to do with animals, but this is just proove that humans are capable of everything. Including destroying themselves ... Or doing cruel things to animals
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Postby KILLA-COW on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:18 pm

Alot on that site is fake isn't it?
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Postby marnamai on Wed Mar 29, 2006 9:48 pm

they look real enough to me :lol: , and plz dont say you dont think it ever happened (even if these were fake) ... you dont know how cruel the world is :?
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Postby mabufo on Wed Mar 29, 2006 11:07 pm

The-fox wrote:Well i cant say that i have any feelings at all for wether humans would go and blow up themselfs or released a virus which would kill humanity.The only survivers would most likely be animals and seeing how ignorant and stupid most people are


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Postby HeadCrab on Thu Mar 30, 2006 12:17 am

I am not an animal rights activist freak, but I have sympathy for animals. I am not against testing medicines and things on them as a last ditch, no way out, rock and a hard place, solution if it has the possibility of saving or bettering more lives than it takes or worsens. I absolutely cannot stand animal cruelty in any way, shape, or form, but testing is slightly different. If it MUST be done to save lives, do it. If it isn't absolutely necessary, it should be refrained from. I have 2 cats, and I feel bad just stepping on their tail. Of course, the time our 18 pound cat got a bag stuck around his head and ran through the house with it on his neck like a freakin' Superman cape was hilarious and non-violent...
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Postby dragonfliet on Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:25 am

The-fox wrote:If i were to meet anyone who is basicly saying its right to kill animals for their fur and for expermenting with things that arent even allowed in war i would most likely kill you slowly and im fucking seriuos.People on the internet never fail to surprise me.Ever.


Yeah, like someone that absolute thinks that an animal life is worth more than a human one and would slowly torture and kill someone for hurting an animal in the same way. That's Justice.

This thread isn't about people who torture animals for fun, or bizzare skinning practices which make absolutely no sense and would only create more difficulty for the skinner.

This is about animal testing. Sorry to chide you about this, but your argument is very, very flawed and way off topic.

Animals are cute and cuddly and all, but that's about it. With some exceptions (chimps and dolphins) they are demonstratively unaware of themselves in more than a physical sense and possess absolutely no higher brain power. We kill many of them for food (deer, cows, chickens, etc.) and we kill many more because they annoy us or gross us our (rats, mice, bugs of all sorts, snakes, etc.), but suddenly, though I'm sure you wouldn't eat in a restaraunt that had mice, we're not allowed to test on them first to ensure that the drugs/procedures/whatever are safe for humans?

In order for anything to be approved, there has to be an extensive process of research and work before they can get approval for animal testing. From there, provided that it's safe and non-harmful to the animals, (which takes a long time and alot of work. The reasons many animals die isn't because of some twisted psycho, it's because the drug/procedure/whatever just doesn't work-had it been tried on humans, they would have been killed/injured/whatever) then they submit an application and can begin EXTREMELY limited tests on humans. From there, after lots more work and often failures ( some still resulting in death of injury, etc. despite the sheer amount of tiem and effort and research and work put into it) they can move up to a larger testing group and from there they can release it to the public. Even with all of this, things slip by and it causes massive problems. You really want to just skip the whole first major testing process? That would so dramatically cut back on new surgical procedures/medicines/etc. that we would become a very sterile, but very primative society in a medical sense.

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