Eugenics

[Spartan]

You know the drill.

Your thoughts on eugenics, what are they?

[slayera]

It pretty much a mute point now. With stem cells, dna, state of art medicine and science, etc... Correcting problems will be only be a matter of time, live longer, not more health problems, smarter, computer enhanced. We will be are own godz, perfect in most every way.

[YokaI]

perfect in most every way.

sadly, hitler thought the same way but had a different approach. To think that we will ever become perfect beings is never going to be possible unless we can come up with a no-work based society with no currency and everything for free. Such things could be possible, but it will not be for another hundred years or so, when robots do all work and robots build themselves. However, we will never be able to "cure" genetic diseases no matter what we try, its like trying to gamble for the impossible.

[slayera]

perfect in most every way.

However, we will never be able to "cure" genetic diseases no matter what we try, its like trying to gamble for the impossible.

Hate say it but that is exactly the type of stuff their are working on now with gene therapy and other methods.

just google up genetic diseases cures

[Woe Kitten]

Genetic diseases are well withing the scope of modern technology let alone future technology and we will see more and more of them becoming treatable in the future. The real problem is going to be the wealth gap. Just like with the current AIDS epidemic in Africa (the west charges the same prices for treatment as they would charge a westerner who is likely to be earning hundreds of times more money) we will see a similar Eugenics 'gap' and that will sure as hell lead to some nightmare situations in the future.

Aside from that, 'perfect' people are beyond the scope of genetic engineering, because social factors play just as much of a part as genetic ones. A lot of research is showing that even our accents can influence our physical development (one study shows that people who pronounce sharp 'H' sounds are slighty taller on average than people who don't! The explanation being that the vibrations in the larynx stimulate the thyroid glands.). I foresee great things for eugenics and great improvements for human quality of life. However, people are people and history has shown that at the fundamental level, life basically stays the same whatever its technological conditions.

[Mess]

I would rather the world concentrated on getting the average life expectancy over 50 throughout the world than concentrating on technologies only a third of the current world wil be able to benefit from. (I'm generalising with my statistics here, but hopefully you see my point)

[Woe Kitten]

Luckilly 'the world' doesn't focus on only one thing at a time. There are a hell of a lot of people dedicating their entire lives to both of the issues you mention Mess. However, the nature of human progress is slow progress and the rich will always do better under a capitalist economy than the poor. Its just the nature of the game I'm afraid

[InternalRage]

Might be a little off topic on the matter, but who heard that they created a bladder using some DNA of a human.

Amazing.

[zombie@computer]

Might be a little off topic on the matter, but who heard that they created a bladder using some DNA of a human.

Amazing.

nobody did, because that wasnt what happened. all they did was grow a bladder out of a small patch of musclecells in a lab. Its got nothing to do with genetic engineering or dna, but it is a remarkable accomplishment.

I would rather the world concentrated on getting the average life expectancy over 50 throughout the world than concentrating on technologies only a third of the current world wil be able to benefit from. (I'm generalising with my statistics here, but hopefully you see my point)

Unfortunately, that isnt where the money is.

[JakeParlay]

We will be are own godz, perfect in most every way.

except in our use of grammar and spelling hahahaha couldnt resist

[Woe Kitten]

Also we'll be seeing the life expectancy rise dramatically as China and India become progressively more wealthy over the next 50 years or so. Until of course they become richer than the US, at which point we'll see the life expectancy drop to 0 as George Bush Jnr Jnr decides to bring about the 'end of days' in a fit of jealousy enduced, fundamentalist christian, rage.

But if we're extra lucky they might have taken the dangerous toys away from the babies by then.

[InternalRage]

nobody did, because that wasnt what happened. all they did was grow a bladder out of a small patch of musclecells in a lab. Its got nothing to do with genetic engineering or dna, but it is a remarkable accomplishment.

That makes it even more remarkable that its musclecells than DNA, IMO anyway.

But you never know, one day we'll be buying brains from the shop.

Man...

Life is progressing, it's times like this when i'm glad i'm young 'cause i'll actually get to see a lot of the absolutely amazing progress made in the world.

Scientists arent actually that far off from finding a way to block meteors from attacking the earth, by altering the course.

Though I feel i'm rather off topic right now.

[zombie@computer]

That makes it even more remarkable that its musclecells than DNA, IMO anyway.

So you think its more remarkable you can make a map with hammer than create a map with the hammer source code only? odd

[Woe Kitten]

Zombie you misserable bumhole... leave the poor boy alone!

[InternalRage]

That makes it even more remarkable that its musclecells than DNA, IMO anyway.

So you think its more remarkable you can make a map with hammer than create a map with the hammer source code only? odd

Lol.. nice reference..

But either way, its a great acheievment.