No more FY at interlopers....

[Cyberblast]

but clans are boring, i could never take cs as seriosuly as some of those people do dammit, bloody train for cs. i know how they would strengthen thier wrists

Lol I'm in the #4 clan of the benelux (BElgium NEtherlands LUXemburg) and i never train for cs and I never did I just play some wars from time to time...

[Athlete{UK}]

The main downfall is that it goes entirely against what CS is about and is generaly only made by those who don't understand the mechanics involved in creating a competant CS map.

What the? BS. CS is whatever you make it. It's not what You (Athlete{UK}) say, it's what I, the player seeking entertainment, want it to be.
Personally I enjoy fy_ maps and I play them every once in a while on the side of regular maps such as de_dust or de_cbble.[/quote]

*cough* read the manifest for CS it is designed as an semi-realistic anti terrorist mod. It is suposed to be based around objective lead game play. Teams work together to save/defend hostages, plant/diffuse bombs. Nowhere does it say it is suposed to be a mindless death match esc crap. I very very rarely say stuff like this but your an idiot.

[Blink]

I thought you were arguing with yourself there for a second.

[Dead-Inside]

The main downfall is that it goes entirely against what CS is about and is generaly only made by those who don't understand the mechanics involved in creating a competant CS map.

What the? BS. CS is whatever you make it. It's not what You (Athlete{UK}) say, it's what I, the player seeking entertainment, want it to be.
Personally I enjoy fy_ maps and I play them every once in a while on the side of regular maps such as de_dust or de_cbble.

*cough* read the manifest for CS it is designed as an semi-realistic anti terrorist mod. It is suposed to be based around objective lead game play. Teams work together to save/defend hostages, plant/diffuse bombs. Nowhere does it say it is suposed to be a mindless death match esc crap. I very very rarely say stuff like this but your an idiot.[/quote]

It's "you're".
They made it to entertain, in one form or another.
You have your opinion, I have mine.

[Athlete{UK}]

Oh yeah granted people have opinions but when the people who acctualy made the mod say it is suposed to be this then well...that's what it is suposed to be.

[Dead-Inside]

Oh yeah granted people have opinions but when the people who acctualy made the mod say it is suposed to be this then well...that's what it is suposed to be.

If we're taking it that way then didn't they fail in creating what they had imagined? If that was true in all it was supposed to do then why do these maps exist? They could easily have removed features from CS which would have made box-maps next to impossible (Removing the ability to have objectiveless maps being one, even though it's still doable).

[Cyberblast]

If we're taking it that way then didn't they fail in creating what they had imagined? If that was true in all it was supposed to do then why do these maps exist? They could easily have removed features from CS which would have made box-maps next to impossible (Removing the ability to have objectiveless maps being one, even though it's still doable).

That makes no sense, you're forgetting alot of aspects

[Dead-Inside]

If we're taking it that way then didn't they fail in creating what they had imagined? If that was true in all it was supposed to do then why do these maps exist? They could easily have removed features from CS which would have made box-maps next to impossible (Removing the ability to have objectiveless maps being one, even though it's still doable).

That makes no sense, you're forgetting alot of aspects

What aspects? Of limiting the ability to create only de_ cs_ and as_ maps? That's not for me to come up with sollutions, that's for the developers who said it was "It is suposed to be based around objective lead game play. Teams work together to save/defend hostages, plant/diffuse bombs.". Else, they must have failed in realizing their dream, did they not?

Or was their dream something enteirly different, like... Did they actually make it to entertain? Could it be?

[Cyberblast]

What I mean is, that developers would take the freedom of the mappers away by restricting such things, what if I wanted to make a map like go_karts? I would have to put hostages somewhere or a bombspot to make it work if they build this restrictions. Anyway if I was a game developer and I saw that ppl go experimenting with the game I helped to develop I would think that's good for them and, no regrets that they want more than the way I made it.

[Dead-Inside]

What I mean is, that developers would take the freedom of the mappers away by restricting such things, what if I wanted to make a map like go_karts? I would have to put hostages somewhere or a bombspot to make it work if they build this restrictions. Anyway if I was a game developer and I saw that ppl go experimenting with the game I helped to develop I would think that's good for them and, no regrets that they want more than the way I made it.

Indeed, but apearently Athlete{UK} doesn't see it that way.

[Athlete{UK}]

Right you short sighted twat. CS=what i said it is. what the creators of cs said it is what the vast majority of the playing community says it is. They havn't "let the mappers have the ability to make objectiveless maps" its just that they can it would just be a waste of time and pointless to somehow make it completely impossible to make anything else. Now i know your going to reply to this and reply to this because your sure that the makers of CS wanted the community to churn out endless poorly made glitchy boring "fun" death match maps for their squad based objective lead mod. So im not even going to bother any more. Keep churning them out.

[Cyberblast]

Right you short sighted twat. CS=what i said it is. what the creators of cs said it is what the vast majority of the playing community says it is. They havn't "let the mappers have the ability to make objectiveless maps" its just that they can it would just be a waste of time and pointless to somehow make it completely impossible to make anything else. Now i know your going to reply to this and reply to this because your sure that the makers of CS wanted the community to churn out endless poorly made glitchy boring "fun" death match maps for their squad based objective lead mod. So im not even going to bother any more. Keep churning them out.

lol OFCOURSE we reply to this bs, looks like you're letting your emotions control you young padawan. Anyway I always enjoyed playing the old vehicle maps and I don't really care if you did, if you think that your opinion is the most important in the universe, fine so be it. But tastes differ (not sure if that's correct in english) there are ppl that play fy maps to. Don't think they care alot what you think about it rite? So I don't see what your point is with all this rage of yours. I played Iceworld alot back in the days, and no I'm not ashamed of it, I had fun and I think it's ok aslong as you have fun eh? it's JUST A GAME. Keep that in mind, btw you could go for president like this

[holy_cheese]

this is so uselessly pathetic. so what if there are "fun" killboxes, there always will be. And there always will be people adamant about how they are a part of cs. But seriously, who the fuck gives a shit? you don't like them, omg heres a cow. he does, have a potato. get over it and shut up.

[Blink]

I agree with Athlete on this one, I never play ant maps other then those are meant to be played. And who made the rules that all fy, ka maps etc had to be utter shit, like at least compile it with RAD.

[wiggle987]

yes as a long time mapper myself, i have had enough of these half assed attempts to gain popularity through little effort, im on athlete's side all the way