The Official Interlopers "Map Pimpage Thread"

[wiggle987]

Looks good Jonny

[matteh]

Basic brushwork, sans props.

[Mido]

Jonny, middle-eastern houses normally don't have trims that bold. Just thought I would mention.

[Spartan]

Mido's right. Look up some pictures on Google for reference. Or take a look at the two dust maps for CSS.

[tarrryan]

that piller thing in the background between the 2 buildings looks too blocky, maybe try changeing it for something diffrent

[Spas12]

Looks good. could use some more props and decals. But like always don't everdue it. change the skybox, also it needs more rops attached to building to building. looks good though.

[Someth|ng W|cked]

Ok, 6 pages and only like 5 maps being pimped . . .

[Spas12]

this thread isnt just for advertising maps its for getting feedback and suggestions. Every map could usa a little somehting from eevrybody. Thats why there are more posts then maps, they are all being judged and "pimped up"

[im.thatoneguy]

Ok you've practically taught me how to use Hammer over the last couple of weeks, so I suppose it's only fair I prostate my project before the critical eye of Interlopers forum.

Obviously the purple represents parts I haven't modeled yet or decided on yet. I like to leave it purple so that my eyes scream "FIX ME". A little self shame can go along ways towards productivity. Glass needs alot of works... mostly it needs to use the env_cubemap sitting right next to it... bah.. long story. And then there is the long long long long long task of texturing the books in the near future. GAh....

Ok.. enough rambling... in case you can' tell from the screenshots, this is a remake of (to me) beloved HL DM map: Turkey Burgers. Now in source, I've affectionately called it BocaBurgers after the fat free vegeburgers. "Now lighter and healthier".

Oh yeah, and MMs are going to either come out of a bag, or start in the cup or a candy machine or something, I would be interested in some ideas on how to get the candy into the level in a rationalized way.

I'm not dead set on anything, except starting over completely, and probably at this point have the abilities and resources to do just about anything that sounds cool, so I would really like some fresh ideas.








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[Spas12]

Im still wondering how the hell rat maps are made.

[wiggle987]

Best Rats map I've seen so far, although the walls look a little featureless, it's shaping up very nicely.

[Spartan]

Ahhhh yes. Finally a rats map that looks worth playing. Try making the wall different though. The room looks too dirty. I like it so far though.

[DarkMortar]

im not exactly sure how rat maps are made but this is my guess.

They make larger brushes, and they just scale the texture to be bigger? But I not sure how they make the lighting so wide, and it LOOKS LIKE U HAVE SOME SCALED MODELS?> how

[showNOmercy]

Im still wondering how the hell rat maps are made.

Build a room to scale then figure out how large you want the room to appear and select it all and scale it. Quite simple actually. Everything in the map will mostly have to be brush based seeings how the models in HL2 are not scalable.

[im.thatoneguy]

I just think of it as a very very big room. My scale is 13x so as long as you are consistant, you can pretty much do fairly simple math to build big walls etc. Alot of the stuff has to be done using brushes. However you *CAN* scale models, it just takes a long time so you need to be sure you want it. For instance I opted out of having to actually model a new couch, so I just scaled a prop, and that turned out pretty well.

The real trick is finding and using textures that can be used individually on a very large scale without looking really low res. The gamepla issues I've had to strugle with most are making it big, but also navigatable, but not just arbitrarily navitable. I like to try and make as much 'terrain' something that could concievably be there as possible.

But yeah pretty much you just map it like you would map a colloseum, trying to keep a consistant scale in mind. The build it normal and then scale it up doesn't work. You need to keep gameplay in mind when you build it, so if you're building a map tiny, the most important phase, the rough draft would be unplayable. I started with just 2 outer rooms, necessary navigatable terrain and orange block for couch desk and table. As soon as the navigation was good I started detailing the main routes adding 'props' etc.