starting a mod

[Cyberblast]

hell no!! it actually exists too i once stumble upon something resembling it but i forgot where it was

ofcourse you forgot cheese..they made you forget

[holy_cheese]

i only remember a flash of red light, then my pc shut down........

[Ennui]

i only remember a flash of red light, then my pc shut down........

Yep, those coders are all damn hackers, stupid kids...

[Aneurexorcyst]

Leading to the conclusion that it's probably best to learn a skill, join a team or two, and after a while make your own mod, a recruit people.

Exactly, I don't believe that a person is ready for the type of commitment a mod or total convesion involves unless they have had prior experience.

Skill wise, I don't think a leader requires anything in particular, but I have come to learn from my own experiences, that a general knowledge of professions really helps set deadlines and can help a team stay together.

[mike-o]

Heres the order, in my opinion...

1. Designer - someone who has the ideas. That's easy, you've probably come up with some sweet mod ideas, if you're like me.

2. Recruiter - Finding people could be a pain in the ass.

3. Web Designer - No one will want to play your mod if it has a shit website. At least i wont.

4. Coder - This is where the real shit starts. This could be hard to find. No one can start really working until this guy gets going.

5. Modeler - Obviously, necessary. Cant have a mod without one.

6. World modeler / texture artist - These are always good to have. They set the mappers in motion.

7. Mapper - Last but not least.

[9f1062f623f9]

Heres the order, in my opinion...3. Web Designer - No one will want to play your mod if it has a shit website.

What a load of rubbish.

It matters not if the website for a particular mod appears poor in quality and design. While it's always good to have a nice website - the quality of the mod is what counts. Not the website.

[Midnight_Oil]

Heres the order, in my opinion...3. Web Designer - No one will want to play your mod if it has a shit website.

What a load of rubbish.

It matters not if the website for a particular mod appears poor in quality and design. While it's always good to have a nice website - the quality of the mod is what counts. Not the website.

I would disagree. There is a lot of competition for talented members and community interest. I think that a polished website is vitally important. If the site is crap, people will assume the mod is too and look no further.

[Blink]

You need a decent attractive web-site with a professional appearance, and also enough media/concepts/staory details to attract key members. That should be the basics before trying to go public with a serious mod.

Although awesome media and crap site is better then the other way around

[Wilko]

Well, we have had a slew of shitty websites over at HoldOut (my mistake for allowing someone else to make the website... they begged )

I assumed if they called themselves "professional" web designers they would be half decent. No. They are full of shit. Anyways, I ended up making it myself, and I assure you this website is much better than previous our previous shit.

http://www.hl2holdout.com

Anyways, I have noticed virtually no increase in our forum member count, it still remains increasing as steady as it was with the shitty site. I don't really think website matters too much. If people only judge your mod by the website, they are probably n00bs you don't want touching your mod anyways

Coders should ALWAYS start mods, considering they are the driving force behind it, and the key to its creation. Face it, you can create a mod without custom models, yeah deal with it.

I myself am not a coder, however, I have close ties to some, and my coder(s) and I get along fine, luckily. If you have issues and disputes with your coder, you won't get much progress done. So if a coder starts a mod obviously he won't argue with himself...

/end rant.

Thats my 2 cents. I wish I was a coder.