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half life universe

Postby holy_cheese on Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:10 am

well, anyone who has read the "da future" thread in general discussion would have come upon my most l33test idea to date.
i don't want to make a mod, nothing. i just want to get a full game document typed up. set up professionally and get everything sorted out, so that i can email gabe with the idea, if nothing else it'll keep me occupied, hopefully make me millions :-D

anyways, for those who don't know what im talking about:
-halflife universe in a whole new way.
-its a mmo fps.
-basically its a real time war of the combine, humans and xen all online, action of a fps shooter game like cs with the massive number of players of a mmo, focussing on team play with squad objectives.

basically what im asking is for anyone with extensive knowledge of the halflife universe, cuz i don't, who can help me write up a thorough design document.
also i know i have not gone into much detail about what i actually have in my head.
I'm looking for one maybe two people willing to help me, as im pretty certain there would be huge demand for a game like this and im pretty sure valve would be interested in something like this aswell, if not meh we might have had fun. any one interested?



and no bloody "this is stupid" comments, if you don't want to help or give my ego a boost by praising me, i don't care for what you have to say. :)
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Postby Murkrow on Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:27 am

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mmo HL.. sweet dreams... :D
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Postby Athlete{UK} on Sat Feb 05, 2005 9:56 am

http://fragfiles.org/~hlstory// but form what i can tell the guy who made this is making it up as he goes a long. he also states that when he speculates is fact.
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Postby snufflez on Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:38 pm

ive always dreamed of something like that...can u imagine the lag though? "OH NO HIT THE DECKS HERE COMES A 56K LOG OFF LOG OFF!!! GO GO GO!!!! OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO" *bewwww*
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Postby Deadman on Sat Feb 05, 2005 6:55 pm

I'm willing to help dig up info on the HL universe
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Postby Cyberblast on Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:07 pm

Deadman wrote:I'm willing to help dig up info on the HL universe


Someone give that man a shovel :P
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Postby Deadman on Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:53 pm

I want one of these, not a shovel

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Postby Cyberblast on Sat Feb 05, 2005 7:57 pm

Deadman wrote:I want one of these, not a shovel

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Aight, we kinda derailed ^^
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Postby Jest@ on Sun Feb 06, 2005 2:12 am

Pleeeeeeeease be aware that the link given above is only someone's interpretation of the evidence....DO NOT TAKE IT AS A DEFINITE "TRUTH" about the HL2 story!!!! It's open to interpretation. my personal interpretation I think fits better to the characters we've seen and assumes a lot less. But that's another matter :)

Basically, if you wanted to run with this idea, or anything that in some way fits the HL2 story....my advice would be KEEP THE AMBIGUITY. Valve have specifically not gone into depth on the story because it's more cinematinc and interesting if people take their own version of events away, and if they're kept guessing. That's a crucial element of the plot/stopry construction of HL....DON'T CHANGE IT!!!! dont try and fill in the gaps too much, people will disagree and a lot of the atmposphere would be gon.


still, good idea, i have a similar thought, i'll do you a design doc if i get time.
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Postby Carl on Sun Feb 06, 2005 3:34 am

chances are they would ovver you £1000 take it or leave it, and since you woudltn be able to use Half Life without their permission you will either have £1000 more than you did or a worthless script. THEY will then make the game and make themselves millions. since it was based on their idea in the first place they would of done all the work in their eyes.


However I would like to see a Half Life Online MMPORPG :D
you could choose the human alliance or the combine occupation. professions would include scientists, medical scientists, combat scientists, political scientists and hot babe scientists.
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Postby holy_cheese on Sun Feb 06, 2005 5:02 am

well, i really don't need to know anything about the story of freeman, its more of the status of relationship between combine and xen which is important, because we know that the combine have attacked earth. how did they get to earth? were they sent by the combine? etc.
this is mainly what i need to know so i can set the scene for a battle with the right forces fighting against each other.
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Postby Cyberblast on Sun Feb 06, 2005 7:58 am

holy_cheese wrote:well, i really don't need to know anything about the story of freeman, its more of the status of relationship between combine and xen which is important, because we know that the combine have attacked earth. how did they get to earth? were they sent by the combine? etc.
this is mainly what i need to know so i can set the scene for a battle with the right forces fighting against each other.


Isn't there a book about the hl universe?
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Postby holy_cheese on Sun Feb 06, 2005 8:59 am

but im cheap :-D
anyways, i think ill start now, not much else to do.

anyways, ill just give a quick rundown of my plans.

i've only really started meshing out the rebels

-class system, you start out as a basic marine with only general skills, its not a marine like in the military you have full control of your action, seeing as it is a rebellion. anyways, you could go out and explore by yourself, travel to other rebel encampents or other rebel hubs which are rebel cities where people can regroup.
-you can also go out and explore, but you might come across combine patrols which will pretty much fuck you up if you aren't in a squad.
- you can also come across ghost towns, kinda like ravenholm, that are overrun by zombies and xen creatures.

anyways basic idea is that your on earth in the middle of the war, you've joined the rebellion, you can venture as an individual, but you'll want some specialised skills or you'll never make it.
there will be some sort of money system so that you can return to town to buy ammo, equipment, undergo training etc.
as you train, or just use a weapon more you gain experience in that field and become more adept at using a weapon.
you can also gain ranks and status, with status comes the ability to command squads, drive larger vehicles, or fly planes, even have robotic companions like dog when you gain a high enough rank.

as this is a war, some fronts will be under constant attack and if not defended can be overrun and control can go to the combine, likewise the humans can conquer combine settlements, the larger the settlement, the harder it is to conquer as reinforcemnts will be sent and defense stations will be set up. To be succesful at conquering a settlement, town, city whatever it will require a coordinated attack and sometimes these are organised by rebel leaders (people running the game), ai and human players will gather at select spots and attack large enemy congregations simultaneously, meaning that even large combine forces can be defeated. this style of game play allows allows the world to change dynamically and the balance of power changes aswell. highly organised clans will reap benefits of being able to conquer settlements and have small bases of operations, so there can be clan cities where a clan could run the economy, major cities would still be run by the admins.


anyways theres just some rambling that i was thinking about, tell me what you think, even though at some spots i could very well be unclear about what i and trying to express. but anyways, i so want this game :D
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Re: half life universe

Postby RefaelBA on Sun Feb 06, 2005 9:16 am

holy_cheese wrote:i just want to get a full game document typed up. set up professionally and get everything sorted out, so that i can email gabe with the idea


well pal that can take months, keep that in mind, and that's with a team working full ships. so here's my suggestion: either gather a team (i'm in, right? :-D ) or drop the game script idea and just put down the main ideas. also, if you don't have time for it, drop it now.

also, i don't know if valve will like it if you do that script anyway. that's because you'd practially be doing their job, planning the game in and out like that. perhaps you should come up with simple possible guideline, the ideas, some imaginary scenes, and stuff like that?
i'd say you need to persuade valve to buy the idea, not a complete game design.
and if it's money we're talking about, don't have high hopes. you may as well work for 7 months, send an e-mail, and with a blink of an eye gabe can reply like this:
"that's a very nice idea, but we're not looking into starting such a project any time soon." - which sounds a lot more real than:
"that idea is soooo good, that we've decided to gather the team again and start another burn-out project!!1"

Gabe Newell wrote:"You can really burn people out on projects like this. Sometimes they never come back. We need to do smaller and shorter projects at first to avoid burnout."


don't have high hopes, you just may get disappointed.
however, you should go with the project anyway. i'll help if you want, as will many interlopers. i think there's a great premis here, and you might as well get valve to look into it.

as for the concept itself, i also got many ideas. first, be sure you want to jump into the water, and [lead] this thing. ;-)
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Postby holy_cheese on Sun Feb 06, 2005 10:26 am

yeah yeah, i got heaps of free time, you know engineering at uni can't possibly be THAT demanding. plus when i said prof style, i didn't mean like 50pages worth, i just can't write that much, ever, on anything.
like i know what i want it to look and feel like, i just don't know much about the whole who fights who, and the vortiguant slaves and all.... the idea i have now could EASILY be made into a mmo fps involving two sides only thing is that now i have hl2 in my head and hl fits perfectly into it, also it has a huge fan base already and by hl3 it will be even bigger meaning that it it was done with hl as the base then, blimey the cash cow has landed.
ill start typing up a document with some ideas, then ill get it hosted somewhere at some point and share it with you guys, then you can add/edit/crap on and report back to me.
im not to fussed about the whole gabe will buy it for millions, they prolyl won't but im pretty sure i could kick up a good fuss if they blatantly rip it off without so much as a recognition or free subscription for life :-D
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