Valve vs Zynga

[The Wanderer]

you all know Farmville made like more profit last year than MW2 right? Yeah :s I think thats the right statistic anyway, but it makes a LOT of money.

Making more money doesnt entitle them to be the better game developer (which the competition is all about).
Heck, how they even beat Infinity Ward, Rockstar North, NCSoft and Square Enix is beyond me because they are all better developers then zynga is.

[Phott]

I believe one of their top guys actually admitted for scamming their players not too long ago.
There was also claims on The Escapist forums that Zynga had tricked it's members to vote for them automatically with a misleading link, though the mods at The Escapist didn't seem to care much about it.

I mean seriously look at all the companies they managed to beat, that shouldn't be possible for a company like Zynga, I don't even consider them real game developers.

Also, I can't link to the Steam thing because it popped up when I started it.

Oh btw, it seems Valve has taken the lead again, let's hope it stays that way.

[city14]

I think it all depends on your point of view...

The point of a company is to make money, that is no different for a game company. While some game companies are willing to listen to user input and make a game for their specific followers, other companies, like Zynga, are working for pure profit. The games are addictive to that subset of people, while I don't play those games, I know those who do. I think that if you consider a game company better developers for working hard on a game, then many other companies would be in first. But, if you consider it a development success to have good profit, Zynga is doing great.

I still prefer Valve as my favorite...

[no00dylan]

This here...

Is some heavy shit

[jgoodroad]

we all know who will get to round 6, that is when the challenge arrives.

I mean, we all know how fun FARMVILLE is.

[nub]

I think it all depends on your point of view...

The point of a company is to make money, that is no different for a game company. While some game companies are willing to listen to user input and make a game for their specific followers, other companies, like Zynga, are working for pure profit. The games are addictive to that subset of people, while I don't play those games, I know those who do. I think that if you consider a game company better developers for working hard on a game, then many other companies would be in first. But, if you consider it a development success to have good profit, Zynga is doing great.

I still prefer Valve as my favorite...

I disagree somewhat. I believe that a developer like Valve isn't doing everything for the money. I truly believe that Valve is all about making games. I mean of course you gotta make cash in a business to keep it running, and you gotta find ways to increase your profit to expand your business, and I respect that entirely, but I don't think Gabe founded Valve just so he could make money. I think he founded Valve because of his passion for games, and all the other people at Valve are there for the same reason.

I would never commit to a career solely to make cash. I would want my career to be involving something I truly enjoy in life.


Like you said, it depends on how you look at it. I definitely feel that Zynga doesn't deserve to even be in this damn competition. A friend of mine who works in the flash and web business summed up pretty well what Zynga is like:

The irony is that Zynga is a metrics motivated company, they could care less about the player, yet the players love them. All they do now is constantly alter their system based on probabilities and trends to make more money. Which is why FV rakes in 100 mil a year, so I guess it's hard to argue.

I'd rather Valve lose to Blizzard in the finals than lose to a piece of crap like Zynga.

[city14]

I meant to include a portion that was dedicated to how Valve and some other companies act differently than Zynga...

I would definitely rather have anyone win over Zynga, especially if it's Valve winning!

[jgoodroad]

FARMVILLE!

nah I am not seeing it, how did it get so far?
are all the 40 yr old mothers suddenly rising up to vote?

[Zipfinator]

The gap is closing! Valve is only a few hundred behind!

[no00dylan]

sad zombie mothers are sad

EDIT:

On a happy note, my mom hates FV and thinks it's stupid. She once called a man stupid after he criticized her for not knowing what she meant by him "going to harvest some cabbage" she was like "you have a garden?" and he was like "farmville, stupid!"... how was she supposed to know?

My dad hates farmville too, but he stays up all night playing poker online so he cant really say anything.

[jgoodroad]

the maker of the FARMVILLE ad also made one for Mafia wars, and cafeworld.

[Shr3d]

Zynga is a turd company, this must be one big joke.

[MáØ]

I was just thinking that if the escapist allows them to win the gaming community at large will disown them.

Just throwing that out there...

[Gary]

I sure will. Though I didn't know they existed until now. Ether way, I don't count Zynga as a "real" game developer. They make flash games... tons of kids on newgrounds make flash games... every day.

[jgoodroad]

correction: they are a bunch of business men who made flash games...for facebook.
God damn Ian Boswell is better then these guys, and he only has made two apps...yet