CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby cra0kalo on Tue Apr 24, 2012 12:04 pm

ScarT wrote:I really hope they're releasing a Source SDK Base 2012 at some point, or a proper SDK after Half-Life 3 (episode three?). Hopefully the media will ask proper questions once they announce something!

I simply can't give up on Source, no matter how much it hurts me :cry:

Feel the same way man :cry:
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby srredfire on Tue Apr 24, 2012 1:21 pm

I'm not giving up on Source because that's all I can remotely do, LOL!
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Epifire on Tue Apr 24, 2012 4:28 pm

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Epifire wrote:Gabe had said himself in a interview a while back that he has been tempted to just start from scratch with a whole new code. Only thing that stops him from doing that, so he said was that Source is solid and that it is hard to cut path for new engine (in paraphrased terms of course).

There are a lot of things to be re-written and optimized, which is a lot of work when their current engine still serves them well. I would predict that we will see a large upgrade of some sort within the next four to five years. Whether it be a steady chain of additional upgrades, or a big overhaul that may include huge revisions.

So in a ending note, it is their engine and they use it as they need. I am just thankful to get a part of it for mods, even if it is old.

Could you link me this interview? I don't recall reading it.


Okay so to rephrase it a a little, he basically states that there would be a lot of instabilities if they were to dump the current code to start on some thing new. Go to 14:43, and there you will here in his own words as he puts it. I would suggest listening to a lot of the interview as I know there are usually a lot packed into interviews with gabe.

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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby dark0r on Tue Apr 24, 2012 5:31 pm

Mike Durand hasn't worked on the SDK for years... was that some kind of joke? Tony Sergi did far more work with modders than Mike did.

Where is the Portal 2/L4D2 engine SDK? ASW was hacky as hell.
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Xanthi on Tue Apr 24, 2012 8:02 pm

cra0kalo wrote:
ScarT wrote:I really hope they're releasing a Source SDK Base 2012 at some point, or a proper SDK after Half-Life 3 (episode three?). Hopefully the media will ask proper questions once they announce something!

I simply can't give up on Source, no matter how much it hurts me :cry:

Feel the same way man :cry:


Same here, I'm also working now with Unity3d but source is still my favorite :)
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby nub on Tue Apr 24, 2012 9:52 pm

The only mod I really cared about in CSS was Zombie Mod, but I even grew tired of that before CSGO was even announced. Still, it'd be real smart of Valve to release a 2012 SDK that's stable at the very least; not just another set of authoring tools that has pretty much the same issues as the Source SDK.

If we get a real update to the SDK, the modding scene should be reinvigorated from it. All us modest mappers want is a more stable Hammer at the very least. I sure as hell get tired of it randomly crashing for no damned reason. But some major streamlining would go a very long way as well considering the entire modding scene. The SDK itself is to blame for making Source modding so unappealing these days.

It's amazing how Valve never bothered to make any actual GUI for converting and compiling models and textures available to the modding scene after all these years. Modders had to do all that themselves. GUIstudioMDL, VTFedit, MDLdecompiler, Photoshop VTF plugins, SMD plugins for 3DS Max and Maya; all that is the work of dedicated modders. I simply can't stand using command line. It's so outdated and tedious. Some would disagree and I've actually met modders who prefer it, but I guess they've just had more experience with it so it's like second nature to them. I, on the other hand, am a lazy prick and want a graphic user interface for every last function. :-D

I'm not trying to diss Valve or anything. They're my favorite developer. Still...it just feels like they don't care about the modding scene as much these days.
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby source-maps on Tue Apr 24, 2012 10:48 pm

don't worry nub, as soon as they find a way to distribute hats via the SDK it will be major success again :)
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Epifire on Wed Apr 25, 2012 3:43 am

nub wrote:I'm not trying to diss Valve or anything. They're my favorite developer. Still...it just feels like they don't care about the modding scene as much these days.


I really do think that the devs at Valve are so involved with their own work in their, "Cabals" that they really are quite preoccupied. I think some where down the road they will finally revise the tools to a new, stable, usability for the rest of us lads. It's all that we can really hope for, being that beggars aren't choosers.
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby ScarT on Thu Apr 26, 2012 4:10 pm

dark0r wrote:Mike Durand hasn't worked on the SDK for years... was that some kind of joke? Tony Sergi did far more work with modders than Mike did.

Where is the Portal 2/L4D2 engine SDK? ASW was hacky as hell.

Yeah, I was thinking the same but this is official, so I figured they'd know more about it. I find it laughable that Tony Sergi fixed a shit load of bugs and tools for the SDK, but the updated was never released because Valve held it back.

They also told him he couldn't ship his port of the SDK Template to ASW laugh out loud.
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Kosire on Thu Apr 26, 2012 6:05 pm

So, seems like the authoring tools is coming tommorrow...

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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby dark0r on Thu Apr 26, 2012 9:08 pm

Kosire wrote:So, seems like the authoring tools is coming tommorrow...

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SDK = Software Development Kit

Levels made with Hammer are not software. Why do they keep referring to Authoring Tools as SDKs? It's misleading and builds up false promise.
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Gary on Thu Apr 26, 2012 10:29 pm

dark0r wrote:SDK = Software Development Kit

Levels made with Hammer are not software. Why do they keep referring to Authoring Tools as SDKs? It's misleading and builds up false promise.


When Valve refers to an SDK they mean:

SDK = Source [engine] Development Kit
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Kosire on Fri Apr 27, 2012 12:02 am

Activation succesful. Counter-Strike: Global Offensive Beta - SDK.
A mail from Chet F. popped in my inbox with a CD Key.. Wonder if not everyone will get the Beta in this weeks update?

Edit: Mailed him back asking whats up. He said "Only 5 people have it right now until we get it working bug free…"
I feel so special now.. :[]:

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And shadows are now working!! 8)

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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby MaK on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:21 am

Not fair! :O
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Re: CS:GO SDK coming 3 months after release

Postby Armageddon on Fri Apr 27, 2012 5:27 am

I want it. :o
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