The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby nub on Thu May 10, 2012 1:17 am

I'm also really curious about how they plan to portray the resistance in Half Life 3. The resistance had a major victory in Episode 2, but the fact that the Advisor pretty much gained Eli's knowledge from "brain sucking" him leads me to believe that the Combine now know a great deal about the resistance and their plans. I say this because, if you remember, Kleiner stresses the importance of Eli's safety after they play Mossman's transmission. I'm wondering if times will become even more desperate for the resistance. Maybe Half Life 3 will be considerably darker than the other games, considering the ending of Episode 2.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby Dives on Thu May 10, 2012 2:05 am

nub wrote: the Advisor pretty much gained Eli's knowledge from "brain sucking"

Wait, that's how that worked? I figured the Advisor was just going for the brain because that's the most lethal way to kill.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby Epifire on Thu May 10, 2012 2:08 am

nub wrote:I'm also really curious about how they plan to portray the resistance in Half Life 3. The resistance had a major victory in Episode 2, but the fact that the Advisor pretty much gained Eli's knowledge from "brain sucking" him leads me to believe that the Combine now know a great deal about the resistance and their plans. I say this because, if you remember, Kleiner stresses the importance of Eli's safety after they play Mossman's transmission. I'm wondering if times will become even more desperate for the resistance. Maybe Half Life 3 will be considerably darker than the other games, considering the ending of Episode 2.


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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby nub on Thu May 10, 2012 2:57 am

Dives wrote:Wait, that's how that worked? I figured the Advisor was just going for the brain because that's the most lethal way to kill.

It very well could be as simple as that, but to me it seemed very deliberate. The advisor turned him around to stab at the back of the head, and once it penetrated through the skull with its tentacle, it kind of stayed in there for a bit, and you could sort of hear some weird shit going on throughout that process. To me it seemed like it was extracting something (e.g. his knowledge). Another advisor also did something very similar to the dead rebel when you tried to kill it in its incubation pod earlier in the game. You could argue that it would make no sense for it to extract from a corpse, but considering the situation, the Advisor could have been dazed and confused because its life support was suddenly cut off and it was injured. It did flee from you after all (thanks to the explosions from the life support system).

Anyway, I also don't think Valve would kill off a very liked character in such a brutal way just for the sake of tragedy. They could have easily made the Advisor stab Eli right square in the heart if all they wanted to do was kill him for tragedy alone. And, honestly, stabbing someone in the heart has a much more tragic effect than stabbing them in the head. Stabbing someone in the head is more...brutal and horrific...

Furthermore, you can't forget the very strong foreshadowing given by Gman's monologue. Eli was obviously a very important pawn in Gman's game. Since the Gman is more than likely connected with the Combine, the Combine therefore knew Eli had valuable knowledge of the resistance.


These are all just my observations though. It could be any number of things.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby joe_rogers_11155 on Thu May 10, 2012 3:32 am

i think g-man tipped off the advisors to eli's location to get back at eli for some unknown thing that eli did to g-man...such as...help the vortigaunts rescue gordon freeman from stasis?
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby Epifire on Thu May 10, 2012 3:54 am

I think we may learn more about G-man in the upcoming events in the continuation of Half-Life. Who knows maybe we might be able to nail a shot off on him if he makes a mistake while doing one of his appear and disappear tricks. But no that would be all to easy, wouldn't it. :lol:
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby nub on Thu May 10, 2012 4:11 am

Did Eli really play a part in Gordon escaping stasis at the end of HL2? I thought that was purely the Vortigaunts' doing.

You do have a point though. Gman did state that he would "Extract something from you as a means of repayment for your own survival." Something like that. Though it could have just made it more convenient for him is all.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby Smurftyours on Thu May 10, 2012 4:20 am

Cant help but think of the brain bug scene when I saw the ending of HL2 EP2. Oh, if anything Half life is currently, its dormant, or at least publicly.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby Jangalomph on Thu May 10, 2012 4:34 am

I'm pretty sure its on hold while valve gets CS:GO, The goggle things, and DOTA2 in working order.
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Re: The Failure of the Half-Life Episodes

Postby MaK on Thu May 10, 2012 5:41 am

jangalomph wrote:I'm pretty sure its on hold while valve gets CS:GO, The goggle things, and DOTA2 in working order.

There's different teams dude. For anyone who hasn't listened to this already, go ahead and listen and make your own judgements.

Skip to 21:05: http://www.sevendaycooldown.com/site/episode001/

Also a few minutes before that Gabe talks about killing off Eli.
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