Source SDK 2013 Released

[stoopdapoop]

yeah, -dxlevel was my issue, now everything's working as expected.

[Jangalomph]

So is this just an almost glorified 2007? And not ASW?

[Armageddon]

Yes, exactly. It's the EP2 code base we should have gotten five years ago.

[stoopdapoop]

oh, and MR2, the multithreaded stuff really is there. Mat::threadedendframe picks up a lot of slack.

[Gary]

Still downloading SDK 2013 base.... and updating HL2...

[Botolf]

oh, and MR2, the multithreaded stuff really is there. Mat::threadedendframe picks up a lot of slack.

I'm really, really tempted to switch from asw for OR + Mac + Linux, how much perf improvement does something like this indicate? Oh, and the difficulty of porting Biohazard's Deferred stuff. I'm still no coder, but I've learned quite a bit from successfully porting HL2 NPCs and whatnot to asw deferred.

[stoopdapoop]

It's pretty decent. There are times when source is heavily CPU bound, and this can help in those situations.

It's generally a pretty decent improvement, and it only gets better as scene complexity goes up

[Botolf]

Hmm, definitely sounds like it'd be worth a stab. Or twenty, as my "coding with my forehead" method requires.

It brings back Linux server support which is quite a big flaw for ASW. Assuming of course you are making a multiplayer mod otherwise not much outside of Linux/OSX support that I can see.

Probably not for my current project, though could be interested in coop for the future.

[Wazanator]

Is there a compelling reason to switch from deferred asw to this? OR/Mac/Linux support is compelling, but what about the base engine?

It brings back Linux server support which is quite a big flaw for ASW. Assuming of course you are making a multiplayer mod otherwise not much outside of Linux/OSX support that I can see.

[Ark11]

How the hell do we install this? I have no idea how to do this

[Epifire]

How the hell do we install this? I have no idea how to do this

Yeah a bunch of us are in the same boat man. My strategy is to let some other fine and experienced person face the headache, then I'll dive in when someone has it a bit more well sorted. At least to the point where someone can have clear explanation for running the thing.

[Gary]

Hmm... I'm able to compile a mod for the 2013 SDK base. The shadow mapping doesn't appear to have fucked up shading like in 2007(where it would like, bleed around the model, looked horrid). Sadly they still fade on BSP at a distance, which is lame, but fixable. I wonder if it also has faster particle rendering...

Shadow rendering I was talking about(sorry, I'm lazy, this is an old pic, but same thing effect):

2007 is what we had, "Garrys mod" is what we have now.


Edit: aww, how disappointing, no fastpath. I wonder if it's possible to port now... or was it before? I never tried... I need sleep.

[wereMole]

So this is what moved HL2 to common instead of the username folder?

Also I cannot run Steam through SDK anymore, but using the direct .exe in the bin works...

What is going on?

[Dr Evil]

Well, I found VS 2010 on my MS office CD, installed it but I still dont quite understand how I'm supposed to "build" this?

[Major Banter]

Right, coders, talk to me in simple terms.

Does this allow for ASW shader stuff to be ported over to an engine build that works with Half Life 2? In essence, skipping the whole 'port HL2 to ASW first' problem?