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zombie@computer wrote:@saxon: the relation you make between schizophrenia and marijuana use is likely reversed; with schizophrenia you are more likely to become addicted to practically anything; including alcohol, drugs and marijuana...
bekey wrote:Saxon, actually I don't really know either if wine is tasty or not. The first time I tried it, it was awesome, the next time in a few months ... I didn't like it. But I'll still try wine occasionally
Saxon wrote:Hellraz0r wrote:this whole "Marijuana causes schizophrenia" is just a 21st century version of 'reefer madness' propaganda. Schizophrenia is something you're born with, you cannot develop it.
There are genetic causes, but most cases of schizophrenia are brought on by environmental causes (stress or drug abuse).
Saying that "pot doesn't cause schizophrenia" is up there with "smoking doesn't cause cancer".
Also lol, "saying pot causes schizophrenia is propaganda" gets bandied about so much it might as well be considered propaganda
Phott wrote:Sounds like my point of view, polycruncher.
Saxon wrote:Wait... what did any of that (apart from the first sentence) have to do with drug abuse?!
If life seems that bad to you, shouldn't you be readdressing how you live life rather than using escapism to put up with the most appalling conditions?
ive not read any of them, you just wanted some articles, i gave them. Its just how friendly i amHellraz0r wrote:Zombie, that's super bro you've done your hardyards. Have you yourself studied marijuana or are you just using your background and some articles you've seen on the interwebz to put your point forward? Most of these articles seem to be "Does" or "May cause" etc, no definitive terms. I too can get a long list of articles without this "May cause" and other slight but sneaky terms. but honestly? I know how hard it is to talk to people who believe marijuana is the devil and all bad so I won't bother. I'm not saying you think that, and I'm not saying marijuana is some wonder drug, because it isn't
I wrote:The long term effects of marijuana are unclear, they arent non-existant. Some studies find links to increased incidence of lung cancer, stroke and various (chronic) psychological disorders.
I don't know how the government and pharmaceutical and alcohol companies want you to think. I draw my own conclusions from various sources. I do feel a lot of naïvety about research and the big bad companies that want to take over the world and want you dead so your pension funds go into their pockets. Can't really blame you, thats how 90% of the world thinks, but thats mostly because they have no idea what they are talking about. I've participated in various kinds of (medical) research and about to publish my very first article, I know the inside world. Yes, there are scammers, thats true. But they do not form the majority by far. Articles that are funded by farmaceutical companies are usually rejected, lawsuits emerge when authors hide these facts and still try to publish their articles, damaging their titles and names forever. Reliable journals require authors to send in their raw data, making it even harder to scam. People think twice before doing things like that, as contrary to the average Joe on the street, a high ranking researcher has but one tool: his name. If it sullied, his/her career is over. And thats an expensive thing to lose after many years of study, i can assure you that.Hellraz0r wrote:but it's definitely not as bad as the government and all these bullshit studies funded by pharmaceutical and alcohol companies want you to think.
Sentura wrote:why not just go all the way and stop eating and drinking "non-substance" liquids too? i would approve of that more than this straight edge hypocrisy.
bekey wrote:I don't think anybody of us took a look at any articles, that you call "propaganda". It's just common sense. It might be the safest drug known to men, but it certainly isn't healthy. Not to mention that most things can still be yet undiscovered.
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